[Battlemesh] International links between Austria, Croatia, and Slovenia

Paul Gardner-Stephen paul at servalproject.org
Sun Oct 21 21:04:27 UTC 2012


Hello Michel,

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Michel de Geofroy
<micheldegeofroy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul will you be at the WBM V6 in Denmark?

Unfortunately this is unlikely, unless I get my teleporter fixed.
It's a long, long way from here and I have already been to Europe
twice in the last couple of months, and I think my family would be
Very Unimpressed if I was gone for another trip in the near future.
We have contemplated a whole family venture, but with a 2 year old and
a 4.5 year old >24 hours in transit in each direction is neither cheap
nor an appealing prospect :(

Paul.

> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Paul Gardner-Stephen
> <paul at servalproject.org> wrote:
>>
>> We are getting pretty close to having that sort of gateway/backbone
>> connection working with Rhizome, so yes, the potential is there.
>> Scalability becomes the biggest issue pretty quickly.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Michel <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Cool
>> >
>> > In conjunction with piratebox Like drop box/relay or gateway to backbone
>> > it would kick off quite fast
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Oct 20, 2012, at 20:51, Paul Gardner-Stephen <paul at servalproject.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Serval Rhizome is designed to make good use of Sneakernet type links.
>> >> We can already do SMS-type messaging, file distribution (including
>> >> offering software updates) etc via it.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Michel de Geofroy
>> >> <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> If line of sight is not presently feasible encrypted tunnels should
>> >>> bridge
>> >>> the gap or even physical carriers could use flash memory on phone or
>> >>> ssd
>> >>>
>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
>> >>> <hans at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 10/20/2012 11:49 AM, Henning Rogge wrote:
>> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Gui Iribarren <gui at altermundi.net>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
>> >>>>>> <hans at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On 10/20/2012 02:29 AM, Henning Rogge wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Paul Gardner-Stephen
>> >>>>>>>> <paul at servalproject.org> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> WiFi long-shots from USA->Alaska->Russia->Europe should be
>> >>>>>>>>> possible?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Only with really high towers or a relay station on the island in
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> Bering Strait.
>> >>>>>>>> (its nearly 100 km of water if you don't have a relay on the
>> >>>>>>>> island)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 125 miles/200km with 300mW wifi:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> http://boingboing.net/2005/07/31/defcon-wifi-shootout.html
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli et al [0] actually did a ~400km link on
>> >>>>>> 2.4ghz,
>> >>>>>> but those distances (including the defcon wifi shootout), are only
>> >>>>>> possible because of the heights provided by generous mountains.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [0]:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> https://interred.wordpress.com/2007/06/18/ermanno-pietrosemoli-has-set-a-new-record-for-the-longest-communication-wi-fi-link/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Exactly... I was more worried about "curving of Earth" than about
>> >>>>> power.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you're talking Alaska to Russia, you only need 40km links because
>> >>>> there
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> an island in between, as well as a 600m peak right on the shore:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=alaska&aq=&sll=40.697488,-73.979681&sspn=0.559109,0.810242&vpsrc=6&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Alaska&ll=65.650349,-168.527527&spn=0.608111,1.620483&z=9
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And if you really need height, other parts of Alaska have 6000m peaks
>> >>>> like
>> >>>> Denali.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> .hc
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