[Battlemesh] WBMv9 Hostel Invoices

Filipe Borges Teixeira filipebteixeira at gmail.com
Tue Jul 19 20:19:58 UTC 2016


2016-07-19 20:32 GMT+01:00 cmsv <cmsv at wirelesspt.net>:

> Under Portuguese law, no one needs to request an invoice/receipt upon
> buying goods or receive services.
> Mr Teixeira (local organization team & hostel) are obligated to provide
> that, WITHOUT being requested. We, who paid for it should have been
> provided immediately with the invoices/receipts.

> The reason why Mr Teixeira is now being 'squeezed'/asked about this and
> emailing the list is also the same reason that he will be asked about a
> few other things that he did due to lack of ethics and was author of.
> They had lot of time to take care of some things they caused. And this
> email is no coincidence regarding wmbv6 events. They have been silent
> for over 2 months until some else brought wbmv9 to the mailing list today.
> He did not misunderstand me. He purposely tried to pretend he was not
> responsible and making look like I was blaming other people and there is
> more to this story.
> Government info:
> http://info.portaldasfinancas.gov.pt/pt/informacao_fiscal/codigos_tributarios/civa_rep/iva29.htm
> Translation:
> b) issue an invoice must for every transfer of goods or services as are
> set out in Articles 3 and 4, regardless of the quality of the buyer of
> goods or recipient of services, even if they do not request it, as well
> as the payments made ​​to them before the date of transfer of goods or
> the provision of services; (DL Drafting No. 197/2012, of 24 August, with
> entry into force on January 1, 2013)

I read your statements twice, and I do not see what the real problem is
here. If you do not have your invoice I can ask the hostel and make sure
that it is sent to your e-mail.

I do not feel squeezed, I just do not see the point in having this
discussion, specially here. If you have any other doubts or question about
the billing process for the accommodation package or about the Portuguese
law I can get you in touch with the hostel manager: they were the ones who
took care of the process. It would make no sense for INESC to bill for
rooms and breakfast.

Here at INESC we took care of sponsorship money and all other expenses,
including travel grants, promotion, t-shirts, food supply and social events
and we worked really hard to make everything free/as cheap as possible, and
still have some money left for v10. If you want more details about that
process I can get you in contact with our accounting staff.

Best Regards,
Filipe Teixeira

> http://www.megamaior.pt/site/upload/files/OTOC20130121.pdf
> Quote without translation extracted from the pdf:
> "Obrigatoriedade de emissão de faturas
> (entrada em vigor a 1 de janeiro de 2013)
> A emissão de fatura passará a ser obrigatória para todas as transmissões
> de bens e presta
> -
> ções de serviços, independentemente da qualidade do adquirente dos bens
> ou destinatário
> dos  serviços  e  ainda  que  estes  não  a  solicitem,  qualquer  que
> seja  o  setor  de  atividade  em
> causa (alínea b) do nº 1 do artigo 29º do CIVA)"
> On 07/19/2016 03:08 PM, Linus Lüssing wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 02:40:38PM -0400, cmsv wrote:
> >> quote:
> >> "There was plenty of time since the battlemesh until now for responsible
> >> people to take care of that were they ever interested in doing so and
> >> making it available."
> >>
> >> Local organization team was/is responsible for making it available.
> >>
> >> Do NOT EVER AGAIN twist my words.
> >
> > I don't think Filipe did that on purpose. I had to read the
> > sentence you quoted + context twice, too.
> >
> > Regards, Linus
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