[Battlemesh] No results again

Christian Huldt christian at solvare.se
Mon May 9 15:53:08 UTC 2016


+1

Battle of the testbeds has to organize their own event IMHO.

Battlemesh has always been a very welcoming environment, I think that is
one reason for the growth, please keep it that way...

Den 2016-05-09 kl. 17:39, skrev Simon Wunderlich:
> Hi,
>
> on which authority is anyone expelling anyone here? I think nobody can and 
> should get expelled on disagreements on the testbed! I think the discussion is 
> getting a little unprofessional here, looking at Juliusz' statements, who 
> wasn't participating WBM in Porto and various other events before. Please, let 
> us keep to the facts, and don't mark anything "fundamentally flawed". I think 
> that talking about problems and mistakes is very important to improve, but NOT 
> in a way that anyone should feel expelled.
>
> Please, let us talk about the problems and solutions professionally here. Let 
> us point out problems based on specific occurrences. And lets fix them.
>
> Personally I don't care which testbed system is used for next year, and its 
> for the people who prepare and perform the tests to decide (which is not me). 
> And personally I appreciate the effort of everyone helping to make the tests 
> work, even if we don't have results every time, because even if we don't, we 
> as the protocol developers get valuable results. For example, even this year 
> we got various valuable bug reports which made us fix problems in BATMAN V. If 
> I heard correctly, it was similar for other protocols as well.
>
> Lets stay positive here!
> Thanks,
>      Simon
>
>
> On Monday 09 May 2016 17:07:39 Roger Baig Viñas wrote:
>> Hi and goodbye,
>>
>> FORTUNATELY the evidences contradict the unfounded statements (the way
>> of doing science of some academics -together with overlooking the
>> facts which contradict their theories). In v6, inspired on v5's work,
>> we presented WiBed and, not only we  got test results, but we were
>> able to present them in figures systematically produced and a full
>> report was delivered afterwards [1].
>>
>> UNFORTUNATELY some individuals insist in expelling people from the WBM
>> while the community stays quite. Last year was Sven's turn, now it is
>> mine.
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/axn/wbm2pdf
>> [2] http://ml.ninux.org/pipermail/battlemesh/2015-August/003807.html
>>
>> My apologises to those who trust me again after last year's farce.
>>
>>
>> On 9 May 2016 at 15:48, Juliusz Chroboczek
>>
>> <jch at pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote:
>>>> You still hit the same problems as we had 10 years ago, it takes too
>>>> much time to get a decent testbed running.
>>> No, Benjamin, read Federico's mail again.
>>>
>>> Last year, most of the people working on the testbed tried to get wibed to
>>> work.  A small group of people (including Federico), some of which had
>>> never touched an OpenWRT router before, decided to work in parallel and
>>> build a simple testbed that we fully understood.  The small group got some
>>> very useful results; the wibed people got none.
>>>
>>> Let us please face it: the notion of a magical testbed that will solve
>>> world hunger is fundamentally flawed.  The basic idea behind wibed is
>>> fundamentally flawed.  Let's take this into account in the future -- let's
>>> limit ourselves to simple test frameworks that people actually understand.
>>>
>>> -- Juliusz
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