[Battlemesh] Linksys promises not to block free firmware

[Mitar]

Hi!

OK, I agree. Let's start simple.


Mitar

> On Mon, 16 May 2016, Mitar wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>>> Unless the database is managed by an organization that is completely
>>> outside of the juristictions, they could still be served by a court
>>> order to provide location tracking of someone.
>>
>> Not sure if there has to be an organization. And there are some
>> decentralized technologies around which could help here. IPFS, for
>> example.
>>
>>> that doesn't solve the court order problem.
>>
>> How not? You have to give court order to multiple people from multiple
>> countries. Good luck with that.
> 
> Running a database is going to take money for equipment. Who handles the
> money, they are vulnerable (see the lavabits case from a couple years ago).
> 
> Also remember that we are looking to build something that has
> credibility to the FCC (and probably eventually similar organizations in
> other countries), We are going to need more than just technical
> resources, we will need to have people meet with FCC officials to
> convince them that this is useful and solves their problem.
> 
> It's hard to do this with a nebulous organization. I think it's much
> better to build something that doesn't store data that can be misused
> rather than try to store it and only access it in 'legtimate' ways.
> 
> 
> As I said to start with, I don't think trying to poison the database is
> a very effective attack to start with.
> 
> let's walk through the possible ways to send false reports.
> 
> 1. false 'nothing here' reports.
> 
>   This will not affect any mapping/reports of 'I saw something here', it
> will just make it look like coverage in that area was better than it was.
> 
> Who cares??
> 
> 2. false 'I saw something here' reports.
> 
> 2a. false reports in the area of a bad actor
> 
>   These just draw more attention to the area and make it more likely
> that the FCC would send out detector vans to the area to find out what's
> what.
> 
> 
> 2b. false reports in other areas
> 
>   These would be ignored if they are not in an area that could cause
> problems. Remember that for the radar problem, you have to be very near
> one of the 50 airports that have such a system, and even there, some
> channels are OK.
> 
> Also remember that legitimate reports are going to show up over a long
> timeframe, someone trying to poison the database would have to continue
> to send their bad reports, and send them in a consistant way or else any
> sort of correlation over time will filter them out.
> 
> 
> In practice, I expect that false reports eat up some database space and
> nothing else.
> 
> David Lang
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