From nico at libre.ws  Wed Aug  2 08:49:54 2017
From: nico at libre.ws (Nicolas Pace)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 11:49:54 +0300
Subject: [Battlemesh] [Fwd: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of information:
 public wifi and personal data protection]
References: <CAMCMt7o6Mn-zR6jwci-6u1gwfwME5WG1UoSKXicZVZd0jx_boQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1501663794.30516.1.camel@libre.ws>

FYI

-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
Reply-to: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity

	<dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
To: DC on Community Connectivity (DC3) <dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
Subject: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and
personal data protection
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 06:26:31 +0200

FYI

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <rafaelzanatta at usp.br>
Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:11 AM
Subject: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and personal
data protection
To: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>


Dear members of BestBits list,

I'm not sure if you know about this, but the new mayor of S?o Paulo
(Jo?o D?ria) wants to change the rules of the public policy that
sustains open and free Wi-Fi access in squares and public spaces. His
plan is to monetize over the metadata and personal data of those
citizens that access the "open wifi". The plan has been heavily
critized by digital rights activists (see here and here). Now the City
Hall has opened a public consultation about the rules of the
partnership with the private sector.

We need urgently some good examples of other cities that implemented
partnerships with the private sector and respected privacy and personal
data protection.

If you have some materials (official documents or papers that explains
the personal data protection policies in such open wi-fi initiatives),
can you please send me?

Thanks for your attention.

Rafael Zanatta
Instituto Brasileiro de Defesa do Consumidor
Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
DC3 at listas.altermundi.net
https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
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From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de  Wed Aug  2 11:10:55 2017
From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 13:10:55 +0200
Subject: [Battlemesh] [Fwd: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of
 information: public wifi and personal data protection]
In-Reply-To: <1501663794.30516.1.camel@libre.ws>
References: <CAMCMt7o6Mn-zR6jwci-6u1gwfwME5WG1UoSKXicZVZd0jx_boQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1501663794.30516.1.camel@libre.ws>
Message-ID: <20170802111055.GF2452@mi.fu-berlin.de>

The local public transport company in Berlin "Berliner Verkehrsbetriebe BVG"
implemented recently a public wifi:

http://www.bvg.de/de/Aktuell/BVG-Wi-Fi

They partner with hotsplots to provide a public wifi and the terms of use can be
found here:

http://www.hotsplots.de/auth/login.php?res=notyet&nasid=BVG-Bahnhoefe

There was in "debate" in the local parlament too that provides maybe additional
information:

https://kleineanfragen.de/berlin/18/10237-wlan-im-berliner-oepnv-i-oeffentliches-wlan-der-bvg

Seems like they provide with "proper" access without selling our souls to the
devil.

If you need help translating I can ask a good friend of mine.

Best Philipp

On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 11:49:54AM +0300, Nicolas Pace wrote:
> FYI
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> Reply-to: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
> 
> 	<dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
> To: DC on Community Connectivity (DC3) <dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
> Subject: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and
> personal data protection
> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 06:26:31 +0200
> 
> FYI
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <rafaelzanatta at usp.br>
> Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:11 AM
> Subject: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and personal
> data protection
> To: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
> 
> 
> Dear members of BestBits list,
> 
> I'm not sure if you know about this, but the new mayor of S?o Paulo
> (Jo?o D?ria) wants to change the rules of the public policy that
> sustains open and free Wi-Fi access in squares and public spaces. His
> plan is to monetize over the metadata and personal data of those
> citizens that access the "open wifi". The plan has been heavily
> critized by digital rights activists (see here and here). Now the City
> Hall has opened a public consultation about the rules of the
> partnership with the private sector.
> 
> We need urgently some good examples of other cities that implemented
> partnerships with the private sector and respected privacy and personal
> data protection.
> 
> If you have some materials (official documents or papers that explains
> the personal data protection policies in such open wi-fi initiatives),
> can you please send me?
> 
> Thanks for your attention.
> 
> Rafael Zanatta
> Instituto Brasileiro de Defesa do Consumidor
> Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede
> _______________________________________________
> DC3 mailing list
> DC3 at listas.altermundi.net
> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3



> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh

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From nico at libre.ws  Wed Aug  2 11:12:47 2017
From: nico at libre.ws (Nicolas Pace)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:12:47 +0300
Subject: [Battlemesh] [Fwd: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of
 information: public wifi and personal data protection]
In-Reply-To: <20170802111055.GF2452@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <CAMCMt7o6Mn-zR6jwci-6u1gwfwME5WG1UoSKXicZVZd0jx_boQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1501663794.30516.1.camel@libre.ws>
	<20170802111055.GF2452@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <1501672367.30516.5.camel@libre.ws>

Adding the original requestor, please remember to CC him.

On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 13:10 +0200, Philipp Borgers wrote:
> The local public transport company in Berlin "Berliner
> Verkehrsbetriebe BVG"
> implemented recently a public wifi:
> 
> http://www.bvg.de/de/Aktuell/BVG-Wi-Fi
> 
> They partner with hotsplots to provide a public wifi and the terms of
> use can be
> found here:
> 
> http://www.hotsplots.de/auth/login.php?res=notyet&nasid=BVG-Bahnhoefe
> 
> There was in "debate" in the local parlament too that provides maybe
> additional
> information:
> 
> https://kleineanfragen.de/berlin/18/10237-wlan-im-berliner-oepnv-i-oe
> ffentliches-wlan-der-bvg
> 
> Seems like they provide with "proper" access without selling our
> souls to the
> devil.
> 
> If you need help translating I can ask a good friend of mine.
> 
> Best Philipp
> 
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 11:49:54AM +0300, Nicolas Pace wrote:
> > FYI
> > 
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> > Reply-to: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
> > 
> > 	<dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
> > To: DC on Community Connectivity (DC3) <dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
> > Subject: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi
> > and
> > personal data protection
> > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 06:26:31 +0200
> > 
> > FYI
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: <rafaelzanatta at usp.br>
> > Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:11 AM
> > Subject: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and
> > personal
> > data protection
> > To: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.n
> > et>
> > 
> > 
> > Dear members of BestBits list,
> > 
> > I'm not sure if you know about this, but the new mayor of S?o Paulo
> > (Jo?o D?ria) wants to change the rules of the public policy that
> > sustains open and free Wi-Fi access in squares and public spaces.
> > His
> > plan is to monetize over the metadata and personal data of those
> > citizens that access the "open wifi". The plan has been heavily
> > critized by digital rights activists (see here and here). Now the
> > City
> > Hall has opened a public consultation about the rules of the
> > partnership with the private sector.
> > 
> > We need urgently some good examples of other cities that
> > implemented
> > partnerships with the private sector and respected privacy and
> > personal
> > data protection.
> > 
> > If you have some materials (official documents or papers that
> > explains
> > the personal data protection policies in such open wi-fi
> > initiatives),
> > can you please send me?
> > 
> > Thanks for your attention.
> > 
> > Rafael Zanatta
> > Instituto Brasileiro de Defesa do Consumidor
> > Coaliz?o Direitos na Rede
> > _______________________________________________
> > DC3 mailing list
> > DC3 at listas.altermundi.net
> > https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
> 
> 
> 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Battlemesh mailing list
> > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> > http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
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From nico at libre.ws  Wed Aug  2 10:49:54 2017
From: nico at libre.ws (Nicolas Pace)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 11:49:54 +0300
Subject: [Battlemesh] [Fwd: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of information:
 public wifi and personal data protection]
References: <CAMCMt7o6Mn-zR6jwci-6u1gwfwME5WG1UoSKXicZVZd0jx_boQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1501663794.30516.1.camel@libre.ws>

FYI

-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
Reply-to: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity

	<dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
To: DC on Community Connectivity (DC3) <dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
Subject: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and
personal data protection
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 06:26:31 +0200

FYI

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: <rafaelzanatta at usp.br>
Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:11 AM
Subject: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and personal
data protection
To: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>


Dear members of BestBits list,

I'm not sure if you know about this, but the new mayor of São Paulo
(João Dória) wants to change the rules of the public policy that
sustains open and free Wi-Fi access in squares and public spaces. His
plan is to monetize over the metadata and personal data of those
citizens that access the "open wifi". The plan has been heavily
critized by digital rights activists (see here and here). Now the City
Hall has opened a public consultation about the rules of the
partnership with the private sector.

We need urgently some good examples of other cities that implemented
partnerships with the private sector and respected privacy and personal
data protection.

If you have some materials (official documents or papers that explains
the personal data protection policies in such open wi-fi initiatives),
can you please send me?

Thanks for your attention.

Rafael Zanatta
Instituto Brasileiro de Defesa do Consumidor
Coalizão Direitos na Rede
_______________________________________________
DC3 mailing list
DC3 at listas.altermundi.net
https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
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From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de  Wed Aug  2 13:10:55 2017
From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 13:10:55 +0200
Subject: [Battlemesh] [Fwd: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of
 information: public wifi and personal data protection]
In-Reply-To: <1501663794.30516.1.camel@libre.ws>
References: <CAMCMt7o6Mn-zR6jwci-6u1gwfwME5WG1UoSKXicZVZd0jx_boQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1501663794.30516.1.camel@libre.ws>
Message-ID: <20170802111055.GF2452@mi.fu-berlin.de>

The local public transport company in Berlin "Berliner Verkehrsbetriebe BVG"
implemented recently a public wifi:

http://www.bvg.de/de/Aktuell/BVG-Wi-Fi

They partner with hotsplots to provide a public wifi and the terms of use can be
found here:

http://www.hotsplots.de/auth/login.php?res=notyet&nasid=BVG-Bahnhoefe

There was in "debate" in the local parlament too that provides maybe additional
information:

https://kleineanfragen.de/berlin/18/10237-wlan-im-berliner-oepnv-i-oeffentliches-wlan-der-bvg

Seems like they provide with "proper" access without selling our souls to the
devil.

If you need help translating I can ask a good friend of mine.

Best Philipp

On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 11:49:54AM +0300, Nicolas Pace wrote:
> FYI
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> From: Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> Reply-to: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
> 
> 	<dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
> To: DC on Community Connectivity (DC3) <dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
> Subject: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and
> personal data protection
> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 06:26:31 +0200
> 
> FYI
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <rafaelzanatta at usp.br>
> Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:11 AM
> Subject: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and personal
> data protection
> To: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.net>
> 
> 
> Dear members of BestBits list,
> 
> I'm not sure if you know about this, but the new mayor of São Paulo
> (João Dória) wants to change the rules of the public policy that
> sustains open and free Wi-Fi access in squares and public spaces. His
> plan is to monetize over the metadata and personal data of those
> citizens that access the "open wifi". The plan has been heavily
> critized by digital rights activists (see here and here). Now the City
> Hall has opened a public consultation about the rules of the
> partnership with the private sector.
> 
> We need urgently some good examples of other cities that implemented
> partnerships with the private sector and respected privacy and personal
> data protection.
> 
> If you have some materials (official documents or papers that explains
> the personal data protection policies in such open wi-fi initiatives),
> can you please send me?
> 
> Thanks for your attention.
> 
> Rafael Zanatta
> Instituto Brasileiro de Defesa do Consumidor
> Coalizão Direitos na Rede
> _______________________________________________
> DC3 mailing list
> DC3 at listas.altermundi.net
> https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3



> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh

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From nico at libre.ws  Wed Aug  2 13:12:47 2017
From: nico at libre.ws (Nicolas Pace)
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:12:47 +0300
Subject: [Battlemesh] [Fwd: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of
 information: public wifi and personal data protection]
In-Reply-To: <20170802111055.GF2452@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <CAMCMt7o6Mn-zR6jwci-6u1gwfwME5WG1UoSKXicZVZd0jx_boQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1501663794.30516.1.camel@libre.ws>
	<20170802111055.GF2452@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <1501672367.30516.5.camel@libre.ws>

Adding the original requestor, please remember to CC him.

On Wed, 2017-08-02 at 13:10 +0200, Philipp Borgers wrote:
> The local public transport company in Berlin "Berliner
> Verkehrsbetriebe BVG"
> implemented recently a public wifi:
> 
> http://www.bvg.de/de/Aktuell/BVG-Wi-Fi
> 
> They partner with hotsplots to provide a public wifi and the terms of
> use can be
> found here:
> 
> http://www.hotsplots.de/auth/login.php?res=notyet&nasid=BVG-Bahnhoefe
> 
> There was in "debate" in the local parlament too that provides maybe
> additional
> information:
> 
> https://kleineanfragen.de/berlin/18/10237-wlan-im-berliner-oepnv-i-oe
> ffentliches-wlan-der-bvg
> 
> Seems like they provide with "proper" access without selling our
> souls to the
> devil.
> 
> If you need help translating I can ask a good friend of mine.
> 
> Best Philipp
> 
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 11:49:54AM +0300, Nicolas Pace wrote:
> > FYI
> > 
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > From: Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com>
> > Reply-to: Dynamic Coalition on Community Connectivity
> > 
> > 	<dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
> > To: DC on Community Connectivity (DC3) <dc3 at listas.altermundi.net>
> > Subject: [DC3] Fwd: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi
> > and
> > personal data protection
> > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 06:26:31 +0200
> > 
> > FYI
> > 
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: <rafaelzanatta at usp.br>
> > Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 12:11 AM
> > Subject: [bestbits] Request of information: public wifi and
> > personal
> > data protection
> > To: "bestbits at lists.bestbits.net&gt &lt" <bestbits at lists.bestbits.n
> > et>
> > 
> > 
> > Dear members of BestBits list,
> > 
> > I'm not sure if you know about this, but the new mayor of São Paulo
> > (João Dória) wants to change the rules of the public policy that
> > sustains open and free Wi-Fi access in squares and public spaces.
> > His
> > plan is to monetize over the metadata and personal data of those
> > citizens that access the "open wifi". The plan has been heavily
> > critized by digital rights activists (see here and here). Now the
> > City
> > Hall has opened a public consultation about the rules of the
> > partnership with the private sector.
> > 
> > We need urgently some good examples of other cities that
> > implemented
> > partnerships with the private sector and respected privacy and
> > personal
> > data protection.
> > 
> > If you have some materials (official documents or papers that
> > explains
> > the personal data protection policies in such open wi-fi
> > initiatives),
> > can you please send me?
> > 
> > Thanks for your attention.
> > 
> > Rafael Zanatta
> > Instituto Brasileiro de Defesa do Consumidor
> > Coalizão Direitos na Rede
> > _______________________________________________
> > DC3 mailing list
> > DC3 at listas.altermundi.net
> > https://listas.altermundi.net/mailman/listinfo/dc3
> 
> 
> 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Battlemesh mailing list
> > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> > http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
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