From ab at andi95.de  Wed Jan  3 11:47:57 2018
From: ab at andi95.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_Br=c3=a4u?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:47:57 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] [ICVPN] [WLANnews] Ideas wanted for Google Summer
	of Code 2018
Message-ID: <9cfeb76d-03e8-e15c-082a-d206da452bf4@andi95.de>

Hi,

I wish you a happy new year and I have news regarding the projects page.

There's a simpler way to see if your project file is valid:

If you look up your project file in github, the file is rendered. What
you need to see is a table above the main text. It should look like
this:
https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents/blob/master/collections/_projects/freifunk_miktorik_metarouter.md

Then your file is most probably valid for merging. You don't need to
install jekyll and so on.

Please add your projects ASAP, as the application period for orgs will
start tomorrow.

If you want to reuse ideas from last year, see this page:
https://wiki.freifunk.net/Ideas_GSoC_2017

Best regards

Andi

On 22.12.2017 07:33, Andreas Br?u wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I recently updated the README on our projects content?s repository with
> a description how to test your changes
> locally:?https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
> 
> Please add your ideas ASAP as we have to start with our application on
> January 4th.
> 
> If you have any questions, please don?t hesitate to ask!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andi
> 
> 
>> Am 27.11.2017 um 23:14 schrieb Andreas Br?u <ab at andi95.de
>> <mailto:ab at andi95.de>>:
>>
>> today I finished the work on the deployment process of the new
>> projects portal. So feel free to add your ideas now. We need them
>> until the beginning of
>> January:?https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Andi
>>
>>> Am 22.11.2017 um 00:22 schrieb Andreas Br?u <ab at andi95.de
>>> <mailto:ab at andi95.de>>:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> GSoC 2017 is barely over, GSoC 2018 will start soon. Next year the
>>> application period is earlier than the last years. So we need to
>>> start collecting ideas earlier, too.
>>>
>>> To improve the presentation of our ideas, I?d like to use a new
>>> software:?https://projects.freifunk.net/?The tool was introduced and
>>> showed at the mentors summit by Coala.
>>> It changes the way of adding ideas, it has to be done via
>>> GitHub:?https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>>>
>>> What do you think about this? Should we use that instead of our wiki
>>> page?
>>>
>>> I?ll add an automatic deployment within the next days, so your ideas
>>> will be deployed after a commit to the repository.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andi
>>>
>>> ?
>>> Andreas Br?u
>>>
>>> XMPP:?andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
>>> <xmpp:andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de>
>>> Twitter:@evAltenberga <https://twitter.com/evaltenberga>
>>> Blog:https://blog.andi95.de <https://blog.andi95.de/>
>>> PGP:0xB7E04818
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> WLANnews mailing list
>>> WLANnews at freifunk.net <mailto:WLANnews at freifunk.net>
>>> Abonnement abbestellen?
>>> ->?http://lists.freifunk.net/mailman/listinfo/wlannews-freifunk.net
>>>
>>> Weitere Infos zu den?freifunk.net
>>> <http://freifunk.net/>?Mailinglisten und zur An- und Abmeldung
>>> unter?http://freifunk.net/mailinglisten
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> icvpn at lists.funkfeuer.at <mailto:icvpn at lists.funkfeuer.at>
>> https://lists.funkfeuer.at/mailman/listinfo/icvpn
> 
> 
> 
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> 


From zoobab at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 15:05:07 2018
From: zoobab at gmail.com (Benjamin Henrion)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 16:05:07 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Asus mesh
Message-ID: <CANjd3ndLcps_n-+r3W1i+LiAWUuqagTvDVK6iqNvB5FB=Jwxzw@mail.gmail.com>

Asus AiMesh feature adds mesh networking support with a firmware update:

https://mobile.slashdot.org/story/18/01/04/0639201/asus-is-turning-its-old-routers-into-mesh-wi-fi-networks

Hoping over the same channel give your the worst performance ever though.

--
Benjamin Henrion (zoobab)
Email: zoobab at gmail.com
Mobile: +32-484-566109
Web: http://www.zoobab.com
FFII.org Brussels
"In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software
patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy.
Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of
software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent
court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their
favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or
democratically elected legislators."

From dave.taht at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 15:31:01 2018
From: dave.taht at gmail.com (Dave Taht)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 07:31:01 -0800
Subject: [Battlemesh] Asus mesh
In-Reply-To: <CANjd3ndLcps_n-+r3W1i+LiAWUuqagTvDVK6iqNvB5FB=Jwxzw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANjd3ndLcps_n-+r3W1i+LiAWUuqagTvDVK6iqNvB5FB=Jwxzw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6s-z_2G81wdg17xON4ko7JcD81j7-CXDa=dDhA9ZFzjw@mail.gmail.com>

I certainly did hope that products would appear with channel
diversity, and would become the norm and something for also leveraging
wired networks better arrive. Here's to 2020!

From filipebteixeira at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 15:55:43 2018
From: filipebteixeira at gmail.com (Filipe Borges Teixeira)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:55:43 +0000
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
Message-ID: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
report with the main conclusions.

* Main event description *
As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
characteristics of the two events.

* Scheduling *
Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week WBM
structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.

* Location *
Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the c-base
space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited the
space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
from F?rderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.

* Internet Access *
c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect no
issues here.

* Accommodation *
Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.

* Social Events *
Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
to the event.

* Travel *
Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
Sch?nefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
airports and city center.

* Cost estimation *
We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
is no registration fee.

*Local organization*
The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.

Recon photos available on
http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission

Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!

Mesh Is In The Air!

On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
Wishing you a happy new year,
Filipe Borges Teixeira
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From pau at dabax.net  Tue Jan  9 01:32:10 2018
From: pau at dabax.net (pau)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 02:32:10 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4787ac9e-2fa6-e9bf-f45b-18d5481e5a02@dabax.net>

Great, thank you!


On 08/01/18 16:55, Filipe Borges Teixeira wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have
> traveled to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the
> traditional reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This
> is the recon report with the main conclusions.?
>
> * Main event description *?
> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's
> edition is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing
> them under a common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been
> working with the local team to create a rough schedule and see the
> best way to combine the characteristics of the two events.?
>
> * Scheduling *?
> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same
> one-week WBM structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend,
> which was already scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the
> WBMv11 edition, together with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>
> * Location *?
> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the
> c-base space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have
> visited the space station to check if space was enough to fit in the
> targeted 100 people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak
> times, we believe there should be enough space during the week: we are
> free to use the main room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and
> other small spaces at ground level and at the lower level. Beverages
> are available on site and Barbeque will happen from Friday to Sunday.
> During the week there will be different food options, whether on-site
> or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship from F?rderverein freie
> Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>
> * Internet Access *?
> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we
> expect no issues here.
>
> * Accommodation *?
> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof
> and City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at
> affordable prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public
> transports. An accommodation package is under negotiation and should
> remain under 200 EUR.
>
> * Social Events *?
> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details
> closer to the event.?
>
> * Travel *?
> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
> Sch?nefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available
> between airports and city center.
>
> * Cost estimation *?
> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros.
> There is no registration fee.
>
> *Local organization*
> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of
> Andi, Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very
> helpful and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>
> Recon photos available on
> http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission
>
> Further details will be given during the official announcement that
> will happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>
> Mesh Is In The Air!
>
> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
> Wishing you a happy new year,
> Filipe Borges Teixeira
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh

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From nefeli.kousi at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 10:02:57 2018
From: nefeli.kousi at gmail.com (Nefeli Kousi)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 11:02:57 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks a lot!!

And happy new year!

On 8 January 2018 at 16:55, Filipe Borges Teixeira <
filipebteixeira at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
> to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
> report with the main conclusions.
>
> * Main event description *
> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
> characteristics of the two events.
>
> * Scheduling *
> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week
> WBM structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>
> * Location *
> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the c-base
> space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited the
> space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
> from F?rderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>
> * Internet Access *
> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect no
> issues here.
>
> * Accommodation *
> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
>
> * Social Events *
> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
> to the event.
>
> * Travel *
> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
> Sch?nefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
> airports and city center.
>
> * Cost estimation *
> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
> is no registration fee.
>
> *Local organization*
> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
> Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
> and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>
> Recon photos available on http://downloads.battlemesh.
> org/WBMv11/recon_mission
>
> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>
> Mesh Is In The Air!
>
> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
> Wishing you a happy new year,
> Filipe Borges Teixeira
>
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>
>
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From iwanovich at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 19:47:23 2018
From: iwanovich at gmail.com (Iwan Flameling)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:47:23 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPJfC0UpJLBWNz4rxVFJvqgVDMvYH_V6Dp9Y_rdfxQO6dtx_MQ@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome work, looking forward!

Mesh is in the air :)

2018-01-09 11:02 GMT+01:00 Nefeli Kousi <nefeli.kousi at gmail.com>:

> Thanks a lot!!
>
> And happy new year!
>
> On 8 January 2018 at 16:55, Filipe Borges Teixeira <
> filipebteixeira at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
>> to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
>> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
>> report with the main conclusions.
>>
>> * Main event description *
>> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
>> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
>> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
>> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
>> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
>> characteristics of the two events.
>>
>> * Scheduling *
>> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week
>> WBM structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
>> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
>> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>>
>> * Location *
>> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the
>> c-base space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited
>> the space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
>> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
>> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
>> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
>> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
>> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
>> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
>> from F?rderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>>
>> * Internet Access *
>> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect
>> no issues here.
>>
>> * Accommodation *
>> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
>> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
>> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
>> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
>>
>> * Social Events *
>> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
>> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
>> to the event.
>>
>> * Travel *
>> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
>> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
>> Sch?nefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
>> airports and city center.
>>
>> * Cost estimation *
>> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
>> is no registration fee.
>>
>> *Local organization*
>> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
>> Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
>> and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>>
>> Recon photos available on http://downloads.battlemesh.or
>> g/WBMv11/recon_mission
>>
>> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
>> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>>
>> Mesh Is In The Air!
>>
>> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
>> Wishing you a happy new year,
>> Filipe Borges Teixeira
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Battlemesh mailing list
>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
>> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>
>
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From sentenwin at gmail.com  Thu Jan 18 07:48:53 2018
From: sentenwin at gmail.com (senthil kumar)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 07:48:53 +0000
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAPJfC0UpJLBWNz4rxVFJvqgVDMvYH_V6Dp9Y_rdfxQO6dtx_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPJfC0UpJLBWNz4rxVFJvqgVDMvYH_V6Dp9Y_rdfxQO6dtx_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF8dBbTNZM8XA9-cPOPknXLQ31RsiXbEVBgQX23wHwBzpnvTog@mail.gmail.com>

 Thanks a lot excited to attend this year Battlemesh too.
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 at 11:47 AM, Iwan Flameling <iwanovich at gmail.com> wrote:

> Awesome work, looking forward!
>
> Mesh is in the air :)
>
> 2018-01-09 11:02 GMT+01:00 Nefeli Kousi <nefeli.kousi at gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks a lot!!
>>
>> And happy new year!
>>
>> On 8 January 2018 at 16:55, Filipe Borges Teixeira <
>> filipebteixeira at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have
>>> traveled to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
>>> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
>>> report with the main conclusions.
>>>
>>> * Main event description *
>>> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
>>> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
>>> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
>>> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
>>> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
>>> characteristics of the two events.
>>>
>>> * Scheduling *
>>> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week
>>> WBM structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
>>> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
>>> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>>>
>>> * Location *
>>> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the
>>> c-base space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited
>>> the space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
>>> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
>>> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
>>> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
>>> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
>>> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
>>> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
>>> from F?rderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>>>
>>> * Internet Access *
>>> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect
>>> no issues here.
>>>
>>> * Accommodation *
>>> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
>>> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
>>> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
>>> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
>>>
>>> * Social Events *
>>> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
>>> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
>>> to the event.
>>>
>>> * Travel *
>>> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
>>> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
>>> Sch?nefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
>>> airports and city center.
>>>
>>> * Cost estimation *
>>> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros.
>>> There is no registration fee.
>>>
>>> *Local organization*
>>> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of
>>> Andi, Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very
>>> helpful and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>>>
>>> Recon photos available on
>>> http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission
>>>
>>> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
>>> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>>>
>>> Mesh Is In The Air!
>>>
>>> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
>>> Wishing you a happy new year,
>>> Filipe Borges Teixeira
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Battlemesh mailing list
>>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
>>> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Battlemesh mailing list
>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
>> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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*  ?  **Community Manager,*

*  ?  **Google Developer Group Madurai*  *,*

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From guifipedro at gmail.com  Thu Jan 18 12:26:21 2018
From: guifipedro at gmail.com (guifipedro)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:26:21 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAF8dBbTNZM8XA9-cPOPknXLQ31RsiXbEVBgQX23wHwBzpnvTog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPJfC0UpJLBWNz4rxVFJvqgVDMvYH_V6Dp9Y_rdfxQO6dtx_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAF8dBbTNZM8XA9-cPOPknXLQ31RsiXbEVBgQX23wHwBzpnvTog@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABr7qmRRRDbR5aGSiCZT_YqUY4ZvfxZxEYCwbdp2ZN5SBAzOZA@mail.gmail.com>

Very happy to see this is happening again

I'm in

From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de  Fri Jan 19 12:59:00 2018
From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:59:00 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20180119125900.GG2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>

Hi,

thanks for your work!

Which rooms will we use exactly? Do we plan to rent some more space in the
building where c-base is located? c-base will be quite packed when the two
events overlap!

Best Philipp

On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 03:55:43PM +0000, Filipe Borges Teixeira wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
> to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
> report with the main conclusions.
> 
> * Main event description *
> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
> characteristics of the two events.
> 
> * Scheduling *
> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week WBM
> structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
> 
> * Location *
> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the c-base
> space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited the
> space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
> from F?rderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
> 
> * Internet Access *
> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect no
> issues here.
> 
> * Accommodation *
> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
> 
> * Social Events *
> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
> to the event.
> 
> * Travel *
> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
> Sch?nefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
> airports and city center.
> 
> * Cost estimation *
> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
> is no registration fee.
> 
> *Local organization*
> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
> Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
> and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
> 
> Recon photos available on
> http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission
> 
> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
> 
> Mesh Is In The Air!
> 
> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
> Wishing you a happy new year,
> Filipe Borges Teixeira

> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh

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From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de  Fri Jan 19 13:03:12 2018
From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:03:12 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
Message-ID: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>

Hi,

I would like to use the old coax cable in our building to extend our local
community network from the roof to the tenants in the building. Has someone
experience with ethernet over coax and can recommend hardware for such a setup?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Best Philipp
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From chromatix99 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 13:25:29 2018
From: chromatix99 at gmail.com (Jonathan Morton)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:25:29 +0200
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <52860E4A-93CC-4C5C-8517-3DF1A47CF29F@gmail.com>



> On 19 Jan, 2018, at 3:03 pm, Philipp Borgers <borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> 
> I would like to use the old coax cable in our building to extend our local
> community network from the roof to the tenants in the building. Has someone
> experience with ethernet over coax and can recommend hardware for such a setup?

Originally, Ethernet was *designed* to run over coaxial cable.  However, I believe that is limited to 10Mbps and half-duplex, which is likely to be inadequate to serve any significant number of subscribers at anything more than "basic e-mail" standard.  Putting even an office's worth of computers in the same collision domain is a recipe for disaster.  Additionally, typical Ethernet hardware uses 50-ohm cable and terminators, whereas typical UHF antenna cable is 75-ohm; you'd need to find some way to match the interface impedances.

Technically speaking, a miniature DOCSIS setup would be ideal for the hardware, but I assume that would be beyond any reasonable budget for a single-building deployment.

In principle, it might be possible to use wifi hardware to communicate over the cable, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Wifi operates at significantly higher carrier frequencies than the UHF broadcast band, so the cable probably isn't efficient at transmitting it - *especially* in the 5GHz band which offers the best data capacity.

Ultimately you might find that running fresh twisted-pair cable is easier.  You can shorten cable runs by providing switches on each floor.

 - Jonathan Morton


From guifipedro at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 13:39:53 2018
From: guifipedro at gmail.com (guifipedro)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:39:53 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>

+1 ethernet cable: more work but better investment is to use coaxial
cable as wire guide cable to deploy the new ethernet cable

I know people that did this. The conclusion was that ethernet is not
that expensive for what you get (vs what you get with coaxial). One
installation that I know uses a device that is fairly expensive to do
the conversion between coaxial to ethernet (that's why probably you
would like to have ethernet), I can ask; probably these days has a
lower prize. The bandwith was about 400 - 600 Mbps.

From guifipedro at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 13:54:22 2018
From: guifipedro at gmail.com (guifipedro)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:54:22 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
	<CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABr7qmR+-kgq+tW3eWUXPnqHG-TVNWG_coLRBCd22SjuC+uayw@mail.gmail.com>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_coax

Translating / summarizing the conversation [1] each master device
costs 200? - 400 ?, and you can add up to 200 slaves per 100? each
one. People that did it: it's expensive (the transmission rate depends
on the vendor and cable state status

Related links to conversation:

https://www.coaxlan.de/

http://www.televes.es/es/producto/coaxdata-gateway-1gbps

http://www.televes.es/es/node/3746

[1] https://llistes.guifi.net/sympa/arc/guifi-users/2016-12/msg00000.html

From bm.datacop at wireloss.net  Fri Jan 19 13:58:07 2018
From: bm.datacop at wireloss.net (Clemens Hopfer)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:58:07 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <1520019.K021MAjOf4@devurandom>

Hi,

On Freitag, 19. J?nner 2018 14:03:12 CET Philipp Borgers wrote:
> I would like to use the old coax cable in our building to extend our local
> community network from the roof to the tenants in the building. Has someone
> experience with ethernet over coax and can recommend hardware for such a
> setup?

There are Powerline adapters that run PowerLine over 75Ohm Coax cable (via F 
connectors). I briefly worked with some of them (Corinex) a while ago.
Original PowerLine is crappy, but running it over Coax works quite well. 
Still, the devices are Modems, need 10-15W and aren't cheap.

The nice thing is they usually work in Multi-Slave mode, so you can have a 
single Master on the roof and several Slaves on the same Coax Network, 
splitted via typical 3/6dB TV splitters.

If there's no way to run CAT cable, this is probably the next best thing.

Yes, original Ethernet was 10Base Coax, but with 50-Ohms impedance and only 
works in Line topology. Also, DOCSIS would be nice, but that's like running 
your own LTE infrastructure for your wireless babyphone ;)

Clemens
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From monic at monic.de  Fri Jan 19 14:17:09 2018
From: monic at monic.de (Monic Meisel)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:17:09 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <20180119125900.GG2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20180119125900.GG2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <96CFB81E-5D1E-4184-988F-9E5D2DF02FBD@monic.de>

Dear Philipp,

we hope to get an additional room from ETI next door.

We will merge the agendas of both events with respect to the traditions, which both have.
Many topics do overlap anyway as well as the list of participants, so we are pretty sure we will ensure a nice experience for everyone.

Regarding the local support team, we will organize a meeting with the interested members of the Berlin Community around 6-4 weeks upfront to clarify the left details then and ask for helping hands with regard to concrete tasks.

We are looking forward to a great Wireless MeshUp!
Best Monic

Am 19.01.2018 um 13:59 schrieb Philipp Borgers <borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de>:

> Hi,
> 
> thanks for your work!
> 
> Which rooms will we use exactly? Do we plan to rent some more space in the
> building where c-base is located? c-base will be quite packed when the two
> events overlap!
> 
> Best Philipp
> 
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 03:55:43PM +0000, Filipe Borges Teixeira wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
>> to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
>> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
>> report with the main conclusions.
>> 
>> * Main event description *
>> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
>> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
>> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
>> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
>> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
>> characteristics of the two events.
>> 
>> * Scheduling *
>> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week WBM
>> structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
>> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
>> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>> 
>> * Location *
>> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the c-base
>> space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited the
>> space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
>> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
>> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
>> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
>> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
>> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
>> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
>> from F?rderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>> 
>> * Internet Access *
>> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect no
>> issues here.
>> 
>> * Accommodation *
>> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
>> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
>> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
>> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
>> 
>> * Social Events *
>> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
>> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
>> to the event.
>> 
>> * Travel *
>> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
>> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
>> Sch?nefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
>> airports and city center.
>> 
>> * Cost estimation *
>> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
>> is no registration fee.
>> 
>> *Local organization*
>> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
>> Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
>> and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>> 
>> Recon photos available on
>> http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission
>> 
>> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
>> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>> 
>> Mesh Is In The Air!
>> 
>> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
>> Wishing you a happy new year,
>> Filipe Borges Teixeira
> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Battlemesh mailing list
>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
>> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh

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From guifipedro at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 15:34:26 2018
From: guifipedro at gmail.com (guifipedro)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:34:26 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <CABr7qmR+-kgq+tW3eWUXPnqHG-TVNWG_coLRBCd22SjuC+uayw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
	<CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABr7qmR+-kgq+tW3eWUXPnqHG-TVNWG_coLRBCd22SjuC+uayw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABr7qmRRuw3+AhGjPtWp8jk8E9z1T3T3mLe9ZtRJ7ea9pRCqRw@mail.gmail.com>

another one has a "chinese" propietary system based on EoC. She is
worried thinking about modifying the installation in the future (the
provider closes / cannot find replacement).

From sp1b0txd at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 16:11:13 2018
From: sp1b0txd at gmail.com (sp1b0t)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:11:13 -0500
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <CABr7qmRRuw3+AhGjPtWp8jk8E9z1T3T3mLe9ZtRJ7ea9pRCqRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
	<CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABr7qmR+-kgq+tW3eWUXPnqHG-TVNWG_coLRBCd22SjuC+uayw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABr7qmRRuw3+AhGjPtWp8jk8E9z1T3T3mLe9ZtRJ7ea9pRCqRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANz5xJ-RwzWWEAB5erVuEozmv0Ege4ccbB13ioZygx=O+v8oCA@mail.gmail.com>

I have an EOC development in Bogota Colombia, under an old hfc network. we
use a node model + 0 in hfc. In our diagram there are 4 masters, each
master supports 64 slaves (cable modems) for a total of 256 slaves (cable
modems).

The frequency of work in the hfc network with eoc is: 5-65MHz for a
bandwidth of 300 Mbps or 5-30MHz for a bandwidth of 100 Mbps. You can also
send television (catv) on the frequency 87 - 860 ( MHz).

Attached link of nodes of catv and eoc (master) and slaves (cablemodems)

Node with master http://www.ktcatv.com/index/product/goods/id/211.html

slave http://www.ktcatv.com/index/product/goods/id/216.html

http://cdatatec.com/eoc/

In my network there are currently more than 3000 eoc slave that have CATV
and Internet service by eoc.

regards

         .---.
        |?_?|
         |\_/|
        //   \\
       (|     |)
       /'\_ _/'\
      \__) (__/

Jorge E. Rojas
Ingeniero de Sistemas
Linux User ID #474487

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:34 AM, guifipedro <guifipedro at gmail.com> wrote:

> another one has a "chinese" propietary system based on EoC. She is
> worried thinking about modifying the installation in the future (the
> provider closes / cannot find replacement).
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>
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From ab at andi95.de  Mon Jan 22 07:25:39 2018
From: ab at andi95.de (=?utf-8?Q?Andreas_Br=C3=A4u?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 08:25:39 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
Message-ID: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>

Hi there,

thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects <https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects>

Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can still add more ideas via GitHub: https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents

The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline <https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline>

Please ask if there are any open questions

Thanks

Andi


?
Andreas Br?u

XMPP: 	andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de <xmpp:andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de>
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From zoobab at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 08:10:27 2018
From: zoobab at gmail.com (Benjamin Henrion)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:10:27 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
In-Reply-To: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
References: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
Message-ID: <CANjd3nc8Wmx_7hsCnDmTSiAuTRVb3CBSSidDbaAqPFADxPK5hA@mail.gmail.com>

Will try to submit things by the end of the day...

On Jan 22, 2018 8:25 AM, "Andreas Br?u" <ab at andi95.de> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for
> https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects
>
> Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can
> still add more ideas via GitHub: https://github.com/
> freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>
> The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at https://summerofcode.
> withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline
>
> Please ask if there are any open questions
>
> Thanks
>
> Andi
>
>
> ?
> Andreas Br?u
>
> XMPP:  andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
> Twitter: @evAltenberga <https://twitter.com/evaltenberga>
> Blog: https://blog.andi95.de
> PGP: 0xB7E04818
>
>
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From valent at otvorenamreza.org  Mon Jan 22 11:49:15 2018
From: valent at otvorenamreza.org (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:49:15 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] [OpenWrt-Devel] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
In-Reply-To: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
References: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
Message-ID: <CAGOios54VizhPP_GmxYGdZtYQvtHaqc_7s4SH76Vmkyp7xXgyg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
if I understood GSOC rules correctly deadline for organisations
applications is tomorrow and then approved organisations will have
deadline for project ideas sometime in March? Or did I misread the
rules?

Cheers,
Valent.

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Andreas Br?u <ab at andi95.de> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for
> https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects
>
> Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can still
> add more ideas via GitHub:
> https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>
> The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at
> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline
>
> Please ask if there are any open questions
>
> Thanks
>
> Andi
>
>
> ?
> Andreas Br?u
>
> XMPP:  andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
> Twitter: @evAltenberga
> Blog: https://blog.andi95.de
> PGP: 0xB7E04818
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> openwrt-devel mailing list
> openwrt-devel at lists.openwrt.org
> https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
>

From ab at andi95.de  Mon Jan 22 13:07:54 2018
From: ab at andi95.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_Br=c3=a4u?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:07:54 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] [OpenWrt-Devel] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
In-Reply-To: <CAGOios54VizhPP_GmxYGdZtYQvtHaqc_7s4SH76Vmkyp7xXgyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
	<CAGOios54VizhPP_GmxYGdZtYQvtHaqc_7s4SH76Vmkyp7xXgyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63ede4ca-071f-cbe1-bc4e-a67268353752@andi95.de>

Hi,

there's no real deadline for ideas. Of course, we need some ideas when
we apply to show there's a potential. And we can always add new ideas.

Students can take these ideas to make a proposal, they could also start
a complete new topic (if they find someone to be a mentor)

My plan with the new portal is to have a continouos page to collect
ideas all over the year. So we don't have to start from zero next year.
We can also mark projects that are done.

Best,

Andi

On 22.01.2018 12:49, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> if I understood GSOC rules correctly deadline for organisations
> applications is tomorrow and then approved organisations will have
> deadline for project ideas sometime in March? Or did I misread the
> rules?
> 
> Cheers,
> Valent.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Andreas Br?u <ab at andi95.de> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for
>> https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects
>>
>> Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can still
>> add more ideas via GitHub:
>> https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>>
>> The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at
>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline
>>
>> Please ask if there are any open questions
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andi
>>
>>
>> ?
>> Andreas Br?u
>>
>> XMPP:  andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
>> Twitter: @evAltenberga
>> Blog: https://blog.andi95.de
>> PGP: 0xB7E04818
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> openwrt-devel mailing list
>> openwrt-devel at lists.openwrt.org
>> https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
>>

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From zoobab at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 13:27:01 2018
From: zoobab at gmail.com (Benjamin Henrion)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:27:01 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] [OpenWrt-Devel] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
In-Reply-To: <63ede4ca-071f-cbe1-bc4e-a67268353752@andi95.de>
References: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
	<CAGOios54VizhPP_GmxYGdZtYQvtHaqc_7s4SH76Vmkyp7xXgyg@mail.gmail.com>
	<63ede4ca-071f-cbe1-bc4e-a67268353752@andi95.de>
Message-ID: <CANjd3ndF6QnfjLh_RdQw3W+MM3tfOYL52crPseoqDmVZzBPDMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Jan 22, 2018 14:08, "Andreas Br?u" <ab at andi95.de> wrote:

Hi,

there's no real deadline for ideas. Of course, we need some ideas when
we apply to show there's a potential. And we can always add new ideas.

Students can take these ideas to make a proposal, they could also start
a complete new topic (if they find someone to be a mentor)

My plan with the new portal is to have a continouos page to collect
ideas all over the year. So we don't have to start from zero next year.
We can also mark projects that are done.


Following the mptcp port for LEDE, we could continue next year if we find
some student to write a kernel module to do a socks proxy in kernel space.

When we presented the project at OpenwrtSummit, some belgian company did
that, but i thin it is not open source.


Best,

Andi

On 22.01.2018 12:49, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> if I understood GSOC rules correctly deadline for organisations
> applications is tomorrow and then approved organisations will have
> deadline for project ideas sometime in March? Or did I misread the
> rules?
>
> Cheers,
> Valent.
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Andreas Br?u <ab at andi95.de> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for
>> https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects
>>
>> Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can
still
>> add more ideas via GitHub:
>> https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>>
>> The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at
>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline
>>
>> Please ask if there are any open questions
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andi
>>
>>
>> ?
>> Andreas Br?u
>>
>> XMPP:  andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
>> Twitter: @evAltenberga
>> Blog: https://blog.andi95.de
>> PGP: 0xB7E04818
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> openwrt-devel mailing list
>> openwrt-devel at lists.openwrt.org
>> https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
>>


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From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de  Tue Jan 30 10:56:17 2018
From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:56:17 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <1520019.K021MAjOf4@devurandom>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
	<1520019.K021MAjOf4@devurandom>
Message-ID: <20180130105617.GC4858@mi.fu-berlin.de>

Thanks for all the comments!

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 02:58:07PM +0100, Clemens Hopfer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Freitag, 19. J?nner 2018 14:03:12 CET Philipp Borgers wrote:
> > I would like to use the old coax cable in our building to extend our local
> > community network from the roof to the tenants in the building. Has someone
> > experience with ethernet over coax and can recommend hardware for such a
> > setup?
> 
> There are Powerline adapters that run PowerLine over 75Ohm Coax cable (via F 
> connectors). I briefly worked with some of them (Corinex) a while ago.
> Original PowerLine is crappy, but running it over Coax works quite well. 
> Still, the devices are Modems, need 10-15W and aren't cheap.

I bought four used corinex anywire connectivity homenet bla bla adapters for 100
EUR. Net data rate on my desk is ~ 91 MBit/s both ways. One adapter on the roof
(router) and one in my appartment (notebook) the result is 70/90 MBit/s. My
notebook auto negotiates with the adapter 100 MBit/s. Advertisment says they
support 200 MBit/s.

I'm talking to the internet via the Berlin Freifunk network with 50/50 MBit/s.
Somewhere along the way we have to upgrade the point-to-point links...

> The nice thing is they usually work in Multi-Slave mode, so you can have a 
> single Master on the roof and several Slaves on the same Coax Network, 
> splitted via typical 3/6dB TV splitters.

This is the next thing I will try. I'm curios which implications multiple
devices will have to the bandwith and latency.

> If there's no way to run CAT cable, this is probably the next best thing.

CAT cable is not an option.

> Yes, original Ethernet was 10Base Coax, but with 50-Ohms impedance and only 
> works in Line topology. Also, DOCSIS would be nice, but that's like running 
> your own LTE infrastructure for your wireless babyphone ;)
> 
> Clemens

Best Philipp

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From ab at andi95.de  Wed Jan  3 12:47:57 2018
From: ab at andi95.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_Br=c3=a4u?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2018 12:47:57 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] [ICVPN] [WLANnews] Ideas wanted for Google Summer
	of Code 2018
Message-ID: <9cfeb76d-03e8-e15c-082a-d206da452bf4@andi95.de>

Hi,

I wish you a happy new year and I have news regarding the projects page.

There's a simpler way to see if your project file is valid:

If you look up your project file in github, the file is rendered. What
you need to see is a table above the main text. It should look like
this:
https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents/blob/master/collections/_projects/freifunk_miktorik_metarouter.md

Then your file is most probably valid for merging. You don't need to
install jekyll and so on.

Please add your projects ASAP, as the application period for orgs will
start tomorrow.

If you want to reuse ideas from last year, see this page:
https://wiki.freifunk.net/Ideas_GSoC_2017

Best regards

Andi

On 22.12.2017 07:33, Andreas Bräu wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I recently updated the README on our projects content’s repository with
> a description how to test your changes
> locally: https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
> 
> Please add your ideas ASAP as we have to start with our application on
> January 4th.
> 
> If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to ask!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andi
> 
> 
>> Am 27.11.2017 um 23:14 schrieb Andreas Bräu <ab at andi95.de
>> <mailto:ab at andi95.de>>:
>>
>> today I finished the work on the deployment process of the new
>> projects portal. So feel free to add your ideas now. We need them
>> until the beginning of
>> January: https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Andi
>>
>>> Am 22.11.2017 um 00:22 schrieb Andreas Bräu <ab at andi95.de
>>> <mailto:ab at andi95.de>>:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> GSoC 2017 is barely over, GSoC 2018 will start soon. Next year the
>>> application period is earlier than the last years. So we need to
>>> start collecting ideas earlier, too.
>>>
>>> To improve the presentation of our ideas, I’d like to use a new
>>> software: https://projects.freifunk.net/ The tool was introduced and
>>> showed at the mentors summit by Coala.
>>> It changes the way of adding ideas, it has to be done via
>>> GitHub: https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>>>
>>> What do you think about this? Should we use that instead of our wiki
>>> page?
>>>
>>> I’ll add an automatic deployment within the next days, so your ideas
>>> will be deployed after a commit to the repository.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Andi
>>>
>>> —
>>> Andreas Bräu
>>>
>>> XMPP: andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
>>> <xmpp:andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de>
>>> Twitter:@evAltenberga <https://twitter.com/evaltenberga>
>>> Blog:https://blog.andi95.de <https://blog.andi95.de/>
>>> PGP:0xB7E04818
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> WLANnews mailing list
>>> WLANnews at freifunk.net <mailto:WLANnews at freifunk.net>
>>> Abonnement abbestellen?
>>> -> http://lists.freifunk.net/mailman/listinfo/wlannews-freifunk.net
>>>
>>> Weitere Infos zu den freifunk.net
>>> <http://freifunk.net/> Mailinglisten und zur An- und Abmeldung
>>> unter http://freifunk.net/mailinglisten
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> icvpn mailing list
>> icvpn at lists.funkfeuer.at <mailto:icvpn at lists.funkfeuer.at>
>> https://lists.funkfeuer.at/mailman/listinfo/icvpn
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> icvpn mailing list
> icvpn at lists.funkfeuer.at
> https://lists.funkfeuer.at/mailman/listinfo/icvpn
> 



From zoobab at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 16:05:07 2018
From: zoobab at gmail.com (Benjamin Henrion)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 16:05:07 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Asus mesh
Message-ID: <CANjd3ndLcps_n-+r3W1i+LiAWUuqagTvDVK6iqNvB5FB=Jwxzw@mail.gmail.com>

Asus AiMesh feature adds mesh networking support with a firmware update:

https://mobile.slashdot.org/story/18/01/04/0639201/asus-is-turning-its-old-routers-into-mesh-wi-fi-networks

Hoping over the same channel give your the worst performance ever though.

--
Benjamin Henrion (zoobab)
Email: zoobab at gmail.com
Mobile: +32-484-566109
Web: http://www.zoobab.com
FFII.org Brussels
"In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software
patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy.
Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of
software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent
court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their
favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or
democratically elected legislators."


From dave.taht at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 16:31:01 2018
From: dave.taht at gmail.com (Dave Taht)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 07:31:01 -0800
Subject: [Battlemesh] Asus mesh
In-Reply-To: <CANjd3ndLcps_n-+r3W1i+LiAWUuqagTvDVK6iqNvB5FB=Jwxzw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANjd3ndLcps_n-+r3W1i+LiAWUuqagTvDVK6iqNvB5FB=Jwxzw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6s-z_2G81wdg17xON4ko7JcD81j7-CXDa=dDhA9ZFzjw@mail.gmail.com>

I certainly did hope that products would appear with channel
diversity, and would become the norm and something for also leveraging
wired networks better arrive. Here's to 2020!


From filipebteixeira at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 16:55:43 2018
From: filipebteixeira at gmail.com (Filipe Borges Teixeira)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:55:43 +0000
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
Message-ID: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
report with the main conclusions.

* Main event description *
As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
characteristics of the two events.

* Scheduling *
Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week WBM
structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.

* Location *
Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the c-base
space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited the
space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
from Förderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.

* Internet Access *
c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect no
issues here.

* Accommodation *
Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.

* Social Events *
Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
to the event.

* Travel *
Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
Schönefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
airports and city center.

* Cost estimation *
We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
is no registration fee.

*Local organization*
The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.

Recon photos available on
http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission

Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!

Mesh Is In The Air!

On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
Wishing you a happy new year,
Filipe Borges Teixeira
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From pau at dabax.net  Tue Jan  9 02:32:10 2018
From: pau at dabax.net (pau)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 02:32:10 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4787ac9e-2fa6-e9bf-f45b-18d5481e5a02@dabax.net>

Great, thank you!


On 08/01/18 16:55, Filipe Borges Teixeira wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have
> traveled to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the
> traditional reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This
> is the recon report with the main conclusions. 
>
> * Main event description * 
> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's
> edition is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing
> them under a common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been
> working with the local team to create a rough schedule and see the
> best way to combine the characteristics of the two events. 
>
> * Scheduling * 
> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same
> one-week WBM structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend,
> which was already scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the
> WBMv11 edition, together with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>
> * Location * 
> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the
> c-base space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have
> visited the space station to check if space was enough to fit in the
> targeted 100 people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak
> times, we believe there should be enough space during the week: we are
> free to use the main room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and
> other small spaces at ground level and at the lower level. Beverages
> are available on site and Barbeque will happen from Friday to Sunday.
> During the week there will be different food options, whether on-site
> or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship from Förderverein freie
> Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>
> * Internet Access * 
> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we
> expect no issues here.
>
> * Accommodation * 
> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof
> and City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at
> affordable prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public
> transports. An accommodation package is under negotiation and should
> remain under 200 EUR.
>
> * Social Events * 
> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details
> closer to the event. 
>
> * Travel * 
> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
> Schönefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available
> between airports and city center.
>
> * Cost estimation * 
> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros.
> There is no registration fee.
>
> *Local organization*
> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of
> Andi, Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very
> helpful and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>
> Recon photos available on
> http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission
>
> Further details will be given during the official announcement that
> will happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>
> Mesh Is In The Air!
>
> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
> Wishing you a happy new year,
> Filipe Borges Teixeira
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
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From nefeli.kousi at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 11:02:57 2018
From: nefeli.kousi at gmail.com (Nefeli Kousi)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 11:02:57 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks a lot!!

And happy new year!

On 8 January 2018 at 16:55, Filipe Borges Teixeira <
filipebteixeira at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
> to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
> report with the main conclusions.
>
> * Main event description *
> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
> characteristics of the two events.
>
> * Scheduling *
> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week
> WBM structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>
> * Location *
> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the c-base
> space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited the
> space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
> from Förderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>
> * Internet Access *
> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect no
> issues here.
>
> * Accommodation *
> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
>
> * Social Events *
> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
> to the event.
>
> * Travel *
> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
> Schönefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
> airports and city center.
>
> * Cost estimation *
> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
> is no registration fee.
>
> *Local organization*
> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
> Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
> and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>
> Recon photos available on http://downloads.battlemesh.
> org/WBMv11/recon_mission
>
> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>
> Mesh Is In The Air!
>
> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
> Wishing you a happy new year,
> Filipe Borges Teixeira
>
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>
>
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From iwanovich at gmail.com  Thu Jan 11 20:47:23 2018
From: iwanovich at gmail.com (Iwan Flameling)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:47:23 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPJfC0UpJLBWNz4rxVFJvqgVDMvYH_V6Dp9Y_rdfxQO6dtx_MQ@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome work, looking forward!

Mesh is in the air :)

2018-01-09 11:02 GMT+01:00 Nefeli Kousi <nefeli.kousi at gmail.com>:

> Thanks a lot!!
>
> And happy new year!
>
> On 8 January 2018 at 16:55, Filipe Borges Teixeira <
> filipebteixeira at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
>> to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
>> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
>> report with the main conclusions.
>>
>> * Main event description *
>> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
>> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
>> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
>> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
>> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
>> characteristics of the two events.
>>
>> * Scheduling *
>> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week
>> WBM structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
>> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
>> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>>
>> * Location *
>> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the
>> c-base space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited
>> the space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
>> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
>> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
>> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
>> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
>> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
>> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
>> from Förderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>>
>> * Internet Access *
>> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect
>> no issues here.
>>
>> * Accommodation *
>> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
>> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
>> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
>> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
>>
>> * Social Events *
>> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
>> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
>> to the event.
>>
>> * Travel *
>> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
>> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
>> Schönefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
>> airports and city center.
>>
>> * Cost estimation *
>> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
>> is no registration fee.
>>
>> *Local organization*
>> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
>> Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
>> and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>>
>> Recon photos available on http://downloads.battlemesh.or
>> g/WBMv11/recon_mission
>>
>> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
>> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>>
>> Mesh Is In The Air!
>>
>> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
>> Wishing you a happy new year,
>> Filipe Borges Teixeira
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Battlemesh mailing list
>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
>> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>
>
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From sentenwin at gmail.com  Thu Jan 18 08:48:53 2018
From: sentenwin at gmail.com (senthil kumar)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 07:48:53 +0000
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAPJfC0UpJLBWNz4rxVFJvqgVDMvYH_V6Dp9Y_rdfxQO6dtx_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPJfC0UpJLBWNz4rxVFJvqgVDMvYH_V6Dp9Y_rdfxQO6dtx_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF8dBbTNZM8XA9-cPOPknXLQ31RsiXbEVBgQX23wHwBzpnvTog@mail.gmail.com>

 Thanks a lot excited to attend this year Battlemesh too.
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 at 11:47 AM, Iwan Flameling <iwanovich at gmail.com> wrote:

> Awesome work, looking forward!
>
> Mesh is in the air :)
>
> 2018-01-09 11:02 GMT+01:00 Nefeli Kousi <nefeli.kousi at gmail.com>:
>
>> Thanks a lot!!
>>
>> And happy new year!
>>
>> On 8 January 2018 at 16:55, Filipe Borges Teixeira <
>> filipebteixeira at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have
>>> traveled to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
>>> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
>>> report with the main conclusions.
>>>
>>> * Main event description *
>>> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
>>> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
>>> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
>>> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
>>> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
>>> characteristics of the two events.
>>>
>>> * Scheduling *
>>> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week
>>> WBM structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
>>> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
>>> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>>>
>>> * Location *
>>> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the
>>> c-base space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited
>>> the space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
>>> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
>>> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
>>> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
>>> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
>>> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
>>> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
>>> from Förderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>>>
>>> * Internet Access *
>>> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect
>>> no issues here.
>>>
>>> * Accommodation *
>>> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
>>> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
>>> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
>>> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
>>>
>>> * Social Events *
>>> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
>>> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
>>> to the event.
>>>
>>> * Travel *
>>> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
>>> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
>>> Schönefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
>>> airports and city center.
>>>
>>> * Cost estimation *
>>> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros.
>>> There is no registration fee.
>>>
>>> *Local organization*
>>> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of
>>> Andi, Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very
>>> helpful and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>>>
>>> Recon photos available on
>>> http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission
>>>
>>> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
>>> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>>>
>>> Mesh Is In The Air!
>>>
>>> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
>>> Wishing you a happy new year,
>>> Filipe Borges Teixeira
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Battlemesh mailing list
>>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
>>> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Battlemesh mailing list
>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
>> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
>
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*  •  **Community Manager,*

*  •  **Google Developer Group Madurai*  *,*

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From guifipedro at gmail.com  Thu Jan 18 13:26:21 2018
From: guifipedro at gmail.com (guifipedro)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:26:21 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAF8dBbTNZM8XA9-cPOPknXLQ31RsiXbEVBgQX23wHwBzpnvTog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAL_QPdOh+HqHAwMv5-GzFsUF5ob_ZfqsSUJjup7Vxg33-+3F=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPJfC0UpJLBWNz4rxVFJvqgVDMvYH_V6Dp9Y_rdfxQO6dtx_MQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAF8dBbTNZM8XA9-cPOPknXLQ31RsiXbEVBgQX23wHwBzpnvTog@mail.gmail.com>
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Very happy to see this is happening again

I'm in


From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de  Fri Jan 19 13:59:00 2018
From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:59:00 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20180119125900.GG2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>

Hi,

thanks for your work!

Which rooms will we use exactly? Do we plan to rent some more space in the
building where c-base is located? c-base will be quite packed when the two
events overlap!

Best Philipp

On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 03:55:43PM +0000, Filipe Borges Teixeira wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
> to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
> report with the main conclusions.
> 
> * Main event description *
> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
> characteristics of the two events.
> 
> * Scheduling *
> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week WBM
> structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
> 
> * Location *
> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the c-base
> space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited the
> space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
> from Förderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
> 
> * Internet Access *
> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect no
> issues here.
> 
> * Accommodation *
> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
> 
> * Social Events *
> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
> to the event.
> 
> * Travel *
> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
> Schönefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
> airports and city center.
> 
> * Cost estimation *
> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
> is no registration fee.
> 
> *Local organization*
> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
> Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
> and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
> 
> Recon photos available on
> http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission
> 
> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
> 
> Mesh Is In The Air!
> 
> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
> Wishing you a happy new year,
> Filipe Borges Teixeira

> _______________________________________________
> Battlemesh mailing list
> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh

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From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de  Fri Jan 19 14:03:12 2018
From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:03:12 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
Message-ID: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>

Hi,

I would like to use the old coax cable in our building to extend our local
community network from the roof to the tenants in the building. Has someone
experience with ethernet over coax and can recommend hardware for such a setup?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Best Philipp
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From chromatix99 at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 14:25:29 2018
From: chromatix99 at gmail.com (Jonathan Morton)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:25:29 +0200
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <52860E4A-93CC-4C5C-8517-3DF1A47CF29F@gmail.com>



> On 19 Jan, 2018, at 3:03 pm, Philipp Borgers <borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> 
> I would like to use the old coax cable in our building to extend our local
> community network from the roof to the tenants in the building. Has someone
> experience with ethernet over coax and can recommend hardware for such a setup?

Originally, Ethernet was *designed* to run over coaxial cable.  However, I believe that is limited to 10Mbps and half-duplex, which is likely to be inadequate to serve any significant number of subscribers at anything more than "basic e-mail" standard.  Putting even an office's worth of computers in the same collision domain is a recipe for disaster.  Additionally, typical Ethernet hardware uses 50-ohm cable and terminators, whereas typical UHF antenna cable is 75-ohm; you'd need to find some way to match the interface impedances.

Technically speaking, a miniature DOCSIS setup would be ideal for the hardware, but I assume that would be beyond any reasonable budget for a single-building deployment.

In principle, it might be possible to use wifi hardware to communicate over the cable, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Wifi operates at significantly higher carrier frequencies than the UHF broadcast band, so the cable probably isn't efficient at transmitting it - *especially* in the 5GHz band which offers the best data capacity.

Ultimately you might find that running fresh twisted-pair cable is easier.  You can shorten cable runs by providing switches on each floor.

 - Jonathan Morton



From guifipedro at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 14:39:53 2018
From: guifipedro at gmail.com (guifipedro)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:39:53 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>

+1 ethernet cable: more work but better investment is to use coaxial
cable as wire guide cable to deploy the new ethernet cable

I know people that did this. The conclusion was that ethernet is not
that expensive for what you get (vs what you get with coaxial). One
installation that I know uses a device that is fairly expensive to do
the conversion between coaxial to ethernet (that's why probably you
would like to have ethernet), I can ask; probably these days has a
lower prize. The bandwith was about 400 - 600 Mbps.


From guifipedro at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 14:54:22 2018
From: guifipedro at gmail.com (guifipedro)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:54:22 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
	<CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABr7qmR+-kgq+tW3eWUXPnqHG-TVNWG_coLRBCd22SjuC+uayw@mail.gmail.com>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_coax

Translating / summarizing the conversation [1] each master device
costs 200€ - 400 €, and you can add up to 200 slaves per 100€ each
one. People that did it: it's expensive (the transmission rate depends
on the vendor and cable state status

Related links to conversation:

https://www.coaxlan.de/

http://www.televes.es/es/producto/coaxdata-gateway-1gbps

http://www.televes.es/es/node/3746

[1] https://llistes.guifi.net/sympa/arc/guifi-users/2016-12/msg00000.html


From bm.datacop at wireloss.net  Fri Jan 19 14:58:07 2018
From: bm.datacop at wireloss.net (Clemens Hopfer)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:58:07 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <1520019.K021MAjOf4@devurandom>

Hi,

On Freitag, 19. Jänner 2018 14:03:12 CET Philipp Borgers wrote:
> I would like to use the old coax cable in our building to extend our local
> community network from the roof to the tenants in the building. Has someone
> experience with ethernet over coax and can recommend hardware for such a
> setup?

There are Powerline adapters that run PowerLine over 75Ohm Coax cable (via F 
connectors). I briefly worked with some of them (Corinex) a while ago.
Original PowerLine is crappy, but running it over Coax works quite well. 
Still, the devices are Modems, need 10-15W and aren't cheap.

The nice thing is they usually work in Multi-Slave mode, so you can have a 
single Master on the roof and several Slaves on the same Coax Network, 
splitted via typical 3/6dB TV splitters.

If there's no way to run CAT cable, this is probably the next best thing.

Yes, original Ethernet was 10Base Coax, but with 50-Ohms impedance and only 
works in Line topology. Also, DOCSIS would be nice, but that's like running 
your own LTE infrastructure for your wireless babyphone ;)

Clemens
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From monic at monic.de  Fri Jan 19 15:17:09 2018
From: monic at monic.de (Monic Meisel)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:17:09 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv11 Rcon Report
In-Reply-To: <20180119125900.GG2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
References: <CAPS4iOLnMN-bdmGXU5cppq6CAGJJLhLGC=XCo1+f=MCfEFSaZw@mail.gmail.com>
	<20180119125900.GG2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <96CFB81E-5D1E-4184-988F-9E5D2DF02FBD@monic.de>

Dear Philipp,

we hope to get an additional room from ETI next door.

We will merge the agendas of both events with respect to the traditions, which both have.
Many topics do overlap anyway as well as the list of participants, so we are pretty sure we will ensure a nice experience for everyone.

Regarding the local support team, we will organize a meeting with the interested members of the Berlin Community around 6-4 weeks upfront to clarify the left details then and ask for helping hands with regard to concrete tasks.

We are looking forward to a great Wireless MeshUp!
Best Monic

Am 19.01.2018 um 13:59 schrieb Philipp Borgers <borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de>:

> Hi,
> 
> thanks for your work!
> 
> Which rooms will we use exactly? Do we plan to rent some more space in the
> building where c-base is located? c-base will be quite packed when the two
> events overlap!
> 
> Best Philipp
> 
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 03:55:43PM +0000, Filipe Borges Teixeira wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As mentors of the WBMv11 edition, Claudio, Filipe, and Paul have traveled
>> to Berlin in Germany from December 1-3, 2017 for the traditional
>> reconnaissance mission, where we met the local team. This is the recon
>> report with the main conclusions.
>> 
>> * Main event description *
>> As there is a big intersection of participants between the Wireless
>> Battlemesh and Wireless Community Weekend, the idea for this year's edition
>> is to join the forces and co-locate the two events, organizing them under a
>> common umbrella, the "Wireless Mesh-Up". We have been working with the
>> local team to create a rough schedule and see the best way to combine the
>> characteristics of the two events.
>> 
>> * Scheduling *
>> Since we have put the two events together and keeping the same one-week WBM
>> structure, we precede the Wireless Community weekend, which was already
>> scheduled for 11th to 13th of May. Therefore the WBMv11 edition, together
>> with WCW 2018 will happen from 7-13 May 2018.
>> 
>> * Location *
>> Since the WBMv11 will be co-located with WCW 2018, we will keep the c-base
>> space station, Berlin, Terra as the event location. We have visited the
>> space station to check if space was enough to fit in the targeted 100
>> people peak. Although space can be a little short on peak times, we believe
>> there should be enough space during the week: we are free to use the main
>> room, the Ceminarroom, the outdoor garden and other small spaces at ground
>> level and at the lower level. Beverages are available on site and Barbeque
>> will happen from Friday to Sunday. During the week there will be different
>> food options, whether on-site or nearby. We have confirmed the sponsorship
>> from Förderverein freie Netzwerke e.V. that covers the room costs so far.
>> 
>> * Internet Access *
>> c-base is a fundamental node of Berlin's Freifunk network, so we expect no
>> issues here.
>> 
>> * Accommodation *
>> Two different facilities were visited: hotel meininger at ostbahnhof and
>> City-Stay hostel. They offer triple rooms and 4-bed dorms at affordable
>> prices. Both locations were close to c-base by public transports. An
>> accommodation package is under negotiation and should remain under 200 EUR.
>> 
>> * Social Events *
>> Social events are planned to happen from Wednesday - Friday. We have
>> discussed some ideas, but the local team will provide more details closer
>> to the event.
>> 
>> * Travel *
>> Berlin is very well connected with flights, from low-cost companies to
>> legacy ones in two international airports: Tegel Airport (TXL) and
>> Schönefeld Airport (SXF). Public transport (train) is available between
>> airports and city center.
>> 
>> * Cost estimation *
>> We estimate the accommodation package to cost around 150-200 euros. There
>> is no registration fee.
>> 
>> *Local organization*
>> The local core team consists of Monic Meisel, with helping hands of Andi,
>> Cven, and others from Freifunk community The local team was very helpful
>> and motivated, with a lot of logistic details taken care already.
>> 
>> Recon photos available on
>> http://downloads.battlemesh.org/WBMv11/recon_mission
>> 
>> Further details will be given during the official announcement that will
>> happen within some weeks. Stay tuned!
>> 
>> Mesh Is In The Air!
>> 
>> On behalf of the recon team and local organizers of WBMv11,
>> Wishing you a happy new year,
>> Filipe Borges Teixeira
> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Battlemesh mailing list
>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
>> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From guifipedro at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 16:34:26 2018
From: guifipedro at gmail.com (guifipedro)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:34:26 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <CABr7qmR+-kgq+tW3eWUXPnqHG-TVNWG_coLRBCd22SjuC+uayw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
	<CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABr7qmR+-kgq+tW3eWUXPnqHG-TVNWG_coLRBCd22SjuC+uayw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABr7qmRRuw3+AhGjPtWp8jk8E9z1T3T3mLe9ZtRJ7ea9pRCqRw@mail.gmail.com>

another one has a "chinese" propietary system based on EoC. She is
worried thinking about modifying the installation in the future (the
provider closes / cannot find replacement).


From sp1b0txd at gmail.com  Fri Jan 19 17:11:13 2018
From: sp1b0txd at gmail.com (sp1b0t)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 11:11:13 -0500
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <CABr7qmRRuw3+AhGjPtWp8jk8E9z1T3T3mLe9ZtRJ7ea9pRCqRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
	<CABr7qmSUFZ0Ooz22zYromMhosBVORG7_FMiYcHwJVOkHTtFrNQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABr7qmR+-kgq+tW3eWUXPnqHG-TVNWG_coLRBCd22SjuC+uayw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CABr7qmRRuw3+AhGjPtWp8jk8E9z1T3T3mLe9ZtRJ7ea9pRCqRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANz5xJ-RwzWWEAB5erVuEozmv0Ege4ccbB13ioZygx=O+v8oCA@mail.gmail.com>

I have an EOC development in Bogota Colombia, under an old hfc network. we
use a node model + 0 in hfc. In our diagram there are 4 masters, each
master supports 64 slaves (cable modems) for a total of 256 slaves (cable
modems).

The frequency of work in the hfc network with eoc is: 5-65MHz for a
bandwidth of 300 Mbps or 5-30MHz for a bandwidth of 100 Mbps. You can also
send television (catv) on the frequency 87 - 860 ( MHz).

Attached link of nodes of catv and eoc (master) and slaves (cablemodems)

Node with master http://www.ktcatv.com/index/product/goods/id/211.html

slave http://www.ktcatv.com/index/product/goods/id/216.html

http://cdatatec.com/eoc/

In my network there are currently more than 3000 eoc slave that have CATV
and Internet service by eoc.

regards

         .---.
        |ô_ô|
         |\_/|
        //   \\
       (|     |)
       /'\_ _/'\
      \__) (__/

Jorge E. Rojas
Ingeniero de Sistemas
Linux User ID #474487

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 10:34 AM, guifipedro <guifipedro at gmail.com> wrote:

> another one has a "chinese" propietary system based on EoC. She is
> worried thinking about modifying the installation in the future (the
> provider closes / cannot find replacement).
> _______________________________________________
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> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
> http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh
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From ab at andi95.de  Mon Jan 22 08:25:39 2018
From: ab at andi95.de (=?utf-8?Q?Andreas_Br=C3=A4u?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 08:25:39 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
Message-ID: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>

Hi there,

thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects <https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects>

Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can still add more ideas via GitHub: https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents

The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline <https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline>

Please ask if there are any open questions

Thanks

Andi


—
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XMPP: 	andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de <xmpp:andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de>
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From zoobab at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 09:10:27 2018
From: zoobab at gmail.com (Benjamin Henrion)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 09:10:27 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
In-Reply-To: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
References: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
Message-ID: <CANjd3nc8Wmx_7hsCnDmTSiAuTRVb3CBSSidDbaAqPFADxPK5hA@mail.gmail.com>

Will try to submit things by the end of the day...

On Jan 22, 2018 8:25 AM, "Andreas Bräu" <ab at andi95.de> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for
> https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects
>
> Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can
> still add more ideas via GitHub: https://github.com/
> freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>
> The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at https://summerofcode.
> withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline
>
> Please ask if there are any open questions
>
> Thanks
>
> Andi
>
>
> —
> Andreas Bräu
>
> XMPP:  andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
> Twitter: @evAltenberga <https://twitter.com/evaltenberga>
> Blog: https://blog.andi95.de
> PGP: 0xB7E04818
>
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From valent at otvorenamreza.org  Mon Jan 22 12:49:15 2018
From: valent at otvorenamreza.org (Valent Turkovic)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:49:15 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] [OpenWrt-Devel] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
In-Reply-To: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
References: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
Message-ID: <CAGOios54VizhPP_GmxYGdZtYQvtHaqc_7s4SH76Vmkyp7xXgyg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
if I understood GSOC rules correctly deadline for organisations
applications is tomorrow and then approved organisations will have
deadline for project ideas sometime in March? Or did I misread the
rules?

Cheers,
Valent.

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Andreas Bräu <ab at andi95.de> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for
> https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects
>
> Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can still
> add more ideas via GitHub:
> https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>
> The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at
> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline
>
> Please ask if there are any open questions
>
> Thanks
>
> Andi
>
>
> —
> Andreas Bräu
>
> XMPP:  andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
> Twitter: @evAltenberga
> Blog: https://blog.andi95.de
> PGP: 0xB7E04818
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> openwrt-devel mailing list
> openwrt-devel at lists.openwrt.org
> https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
>


From ab at andi95.de  Mon Jan 22 14:07:54 2018
From: ab at andi95.de (=?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_Br=c3=a4u?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:07:54 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] [OpenWrt-Devel] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
In-Reply-To: <CAGOios54VizhPP_GmxYGdZtYQvtHaqc_7s4SH76Vmkyp7xXgyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
	<CAGOios54VizhPP_GmxYGdZtYQvtHaqc_7s4SH76Vmkyp7xXgyg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63ede4ca-071f-cbe1-bc4e-a67268353752@andi95.de>

Hi,

there's no real deadline for ideas. Of course, we need some ideas when
we apply to show there's a potential. And we can always add new ideas.

Students can take these ideas to make a proposal, they could also start
a complete new topic (if they find someone to be a mentor)

My plan with the new portal is to have a continouos page to collect
ideas all over the year. So we don't have to start from zero next year.
We can also mark projects that are done.

Best,

Andi

On 22.01.2018 12:49, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> if I understood GSOC rules correctly deadline for organisations
> applications is tomorrow and then approved organisations will have
> deadline for project ideas sometime in March? Or did I misread the
> rules?
> 
> Cheers,
> Valent.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Andreas Bräu <ab at andi95.de> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for
>> https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects
>>
>> Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can still
>> add more ideas via GitHub:
>> https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>>
>> The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at
>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline
>>
>> Please ask if there are any open questions
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andi
>>
>>
>> —
>> Andreas Bräu
>>
>> XMPP:  andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
>> Twitter: @evAltenberga
>> Blog: https://blog.andi95.de
>> PGP: 0xB7E04818
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> openwrt-devel mailing list
>> openwrt-devel at lists.openwrt.org
>> https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
>>

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From zoobab at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 14:27:01 2018
From: zoobab at gmail.com (Benjamin Henrion)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 14:27:01 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] [OpenWrt-Devel] Google Summer of Code 2018 - Ideas
In-Reply-To: <63ede4ca-071f-cbe1-bc4e-a67268353752@andi95.de>
References: <6934191C-AF9A-4202-A50C-3443F064F628@andi95.de>
	<CAGOios54VizhPP_GmxYGdZtYQvtHaqc_7s4SH76Vmkyp7xXgyg@mail.gmail.com>
	<63ede4ca-071f-cbe1-bc4e-a67268353752@andi95.de>
Message-ID: <CANjd3ndF6QnfjLh_RdQw3W+MM3tfOYL52crPseoqDmVZzBPDMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Jan 22, 2018 14:08, "Andreas Bräu" <ab at andi95.de> wrote:

Hi,

there's no real deadline for ideas. Of course, we need some ideas when
we apply to show there's a potential. And we can always add new ideas.

Students can take these ideas to make a proposal, they could also start
a complete new topic (if they find someone to be a mentor)

My plan with the new portal is to have a continouos page to collect
ideas all over the year. So we don't have to start from zero next year.
We can also mark projects that are done.


Following the mptcp port for LEDE, we could continue next year if we find
some student to write a kernel module to do a socks proxy in kernel space.

When we presented the project at OpenwrtSummit, some belgian company did
that, but i thin it is not open source.


Best,

Andi

On 22.01.2018 12:49, Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> if I understood GSOC rules correctly deadline for organisations
> applications is tomorrow and then approved organisations will have
> deadline for project ideas sometime in March? Or did I misread the
> rules?
>
> Cheers,
> Valent.
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Andreas Bräu <ab at andi95.de> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> thank you for all your ideas you submitted so far for
>> https://projects.freifunk.net/#/projects
>>
>> Even though we have to finish our application until tomorrow, you can
still
>> add more ideas via GitHub:
>> https://github.com/freifunk/projects.freifunk.net-contents
>>
>> The whole timeline for GSoC 2018 you can find at
>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/#timeline
>>
>> Please ask if there are any open questions
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andi
>>
>>
>> —
>> Andreas Bräu
>>
>> XMPP:  andibraeu at jabber.weimarnetz.de
>> Twitter: @evAltenberga
>> Blog: https://blog.andi95.de
>> PGP: 0xB7E04818
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> openwrt-devel mailing list
>> openwrt-devel at lists.openwrt.org
>> https://lists.openwrt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
>>


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From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de  Tue Jan 30 11:56:17 2018
From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers)
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:56:17 +0100
Subject: [Battlemesh] Ethernet over Coax
In-Reply-To: <1520019.K021MAjOf4@devurandom>
References: <20180119130312.GH2631@mi.fu-berlin.de>
	<1520019.K021MAjOf4@devurandom>
Message-ID: <20180130105617.GC4858@mi.fu-berlin.de>

Thanks for all the comments!

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 02:58:07PM +0100, Clemens Hopfer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Freitag, 19. Jänner 2018 14:03:12 CET Philipp Borgers wrote:
> > I would like to use the old coax cable in our building to extend our local
> > community network from the roof to the tenants in the building. Has someone
> > experience with ethernet over coax and can recommend hardware for such a
> > setup?
> 
> There are Powerline adapters that run PowerLine over 75Ohm Coax cable (via F 
> connectors). I briefly worked with some of them (Corinex) a while ago.
> Original PowerLine is crappy, but running it over Coax works quite well. 
> Still, the devices are Modems, need 10-15W and aren't cheap.

I bought four used corinex anywire connectivity homenet bla bla adapters for 100
EUR. Net data rate on my desk is ~ 91 MBit/s both ways. One adapter on the roof
(router) and one in my appartment (notebook) the result is 70/90 MBit/s. My
notebook auto negotiates with the adapter 100 MBit/s. Advertisment says they
support 200 MBit/s.

I'm talking to the internet via the Berlin Freifunk network with 50/50 MBit/s.
Somewhere along the way we have to upgrade the point-to-point links...

> The nice thing is they usually work in Multi-Slave mode, so you can have a 
> single Master on the roof and several Slaves on the same Coax Network, 
> splitted via typical 3/6dB TV splitters.

This is the next thing I will try. I'm curios which implications multiple
devices will have to the bandwith and latency.

> If there's no way to run CAT cable, this is probably the next best thing.

CAT cable is not an option.

> Yes, original Ethernet was 10Base Coax, but with 50-Ohms impedance and only 
> works in Line topology. Also, DOCSIS would be nice, but that's like running 
> your own LTE infrastructure for your wireless babyphone ;)
> 
> Clemens

Best Philipp

> _______________________________________________
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> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org
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