Hi All,<div><br></div><div>First of all I want everyone not to misunderstand my position, when I do something I do it best I can … it may come across as me desperately wanting the event to be in Formentera, but in reality its much more comfortable to be a guest than a host as the ones who have hosted events understand especially if you want to make it a fun and cheap one.</div>
<div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Federico Capoano <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:federico@nemesisdesign.net" target="_blank">federico@nemesisdesign.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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The veiled discussion here is:<br>
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Organizing an event where there are existing community networks <b>VS
</b>Organize an event where there are not community networks yet to
promote the creation of community networks <br>
<br>
From what I understood, BattleMesh has been always organized by
existing community networks to meetup, share, compare the work done
by each group and eventually collaborate. The main feature was the
fact that some existing community hosted the event and many here
would like it to stay that way.<br>
<br>
In Michel's case, he wants to organize an event in a place where
(from what I've understood, correct me if i'm wrong) there's no real
community network yet and this would probably promote our model
there.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There are more than 60 people that are sharing their internet connection using Robin OLSR initially with support of cloudtrax and now mostly with wifi-mesh I do not know if "you" consider this a community network ? are they hackers or knowledgable in WiFi ? I would say no, they are just your average person that feels good about sharing.</div>
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Personally I think that an event to promote community networks in
the balearic islands would be great, I lived there 3 years, I know
Ibiza quite well and I could ask around if there's a way to get help
in organizing such an event.<br>
What I'm not sure though, is if it makes sense to bring there the
"BattleMesh" format, because hardly anyone living there would be
able to understand what we would be talking about during most part
of the event!<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree most local people would be learning more than anything else </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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In my opinion it would make more sense to organize a new kind of
event with a different format and name, which would be aimed at
promoting community neworks, using a language that anybody would be
able to understand, focused on some talks and demonstrations.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Honestly I would not be interested in creating yet another event better go to Denmark since honestly I am probably the least one interested in Formentera I live here :) </div>
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My 2 cents<div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Cheers to all :) </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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Il 02/05/2012 11.21, Michel de Geofroy ha scritto:
<div><div><blockquote type="cite">Roger is this what you are referring to ?
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<div><a href="http://battlemesh.org/SpiritOfTheEvent" target="_blank">http://battlemesh.org/SpiritOfTheEvent</a></div>
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<div>"Battelemesh is an annual gathering where a number of mesh
and community networking enthusiasts meet in order to test and
compare their mesh routing protocols and related technologies.
The event is technical and social -- building actual working
networks, meeting people and having fun are our main
priorities.</div>
<div>As the Battlemesh's attendance has grown in recent years,
we have been reserving a small number of slots for short
talks. However, we intend Battlemesh to remain a technical
event self-organized by its participants, rather than a
conference, and the number of available slots is severely
limited."</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Roger
Baig Viñas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:roger.baig@gmail.com" target="_blank">roger.baig@gmail.com</a>></span>
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Hi,<br>
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On 2 May 2012 01:29, Michel de Geofroy <<a href="mailto:micheldegeofroy@gmail.com" target="_blank">micheldegeofroy@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Hi All is this <a href="http://battlemesh.org/org_framework" target="_blank">http://battlemesh.org/org_framework</a> still
relevant or needs<br>
> some updating ?<br>
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It should still be relevant (this is what it was meant for)
and of<br>
course it can be updated by just doing it and commenting it
in this<br>
list.<br>
<br>
The spirit was well defined during de v5 in a proposal
circulated in<br>
this list. I think that text could already be uploaded in
the website.<br>
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<div><br>
><br>
> Formentera has some real advantages as it is really
a nice place bla bla bla<br>
> but we have no university or big city with lots of
qualified people like I<br>
> met in Paris at the Black Box. Wifi here is more
about rural out reach so<br>
> kids can do their homework without having to get a
3G wifi modem and 45 Euro<br>
> a month 10MB shitty telephonica/movistar deal . As
Saverio noted there is<br>
> nothing like the AWMN or Guifi here yet but I am
working on it and I do hope<br>
> that the presence of 60+ wifi nerds will inspire
more people locally.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Nefeli Kousi <<a href="mailto:dit.eagle@gmail.com" target="_blank">dit.eagle@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> About Denmark i think we should ask the ones
who proposed this idea for<br>
>> more information. Throughout the last
conversation (in Greece) there were<br>
>> many good points about it and i would like to
see them all in a more<br>
>> concrete and organised proposal.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> About the spirit of the event I think we need
to here the "definition"<br>
>> from the ones who started it so the newies such
as myself can understand it<br>
>> better. What is the original culture and goal?
How relevant is it to the<br>
>> event now?<br>
>><br>
>> Lastly about the new location for WBM I think
we need to define what our<br>
>> priorities and out minimum needs are.<br>
>><br>
>> We need a venue for sure , a low cost place to
sleep, transportation from<br>
>> the airport to be availiable etc. And, most
importantly, we need a team to<br>
>> feel responsible to organise it.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> What about the priorities?<br>
>> Is our priority to have crazy wirelless
projects? Is our priority to have<br>
>> fun? Is our priority to get bonded as a
team? Is our priority to be cost<br>
>> effective? Is our priority to get some results
out of the WBMv6?<br>
>><br>
>> There are many nice ideas and many wonderfull
places around the world.<br>
>> But, in my opinion, we need to set what we are
looking for.<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:46 AM, ZioPRoTo
(Saverio Proto)<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:zioproto@gmail.com" target="_blank">zioproto@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I think he meant Denmark.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>><br>
>>> yes I meant Denmark !<br>
>>><br>
>>> Saverio<br>
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