Paul will you be at the WBM V6 in Denmark?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Paul Gardner-Stephen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul@servalproject.org" target="_blank">paul@servalproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">We are getting pretty close to having that sort of gateway/backbone<br>
connection working with Rhizome, so yes, the potential is there.<br>
Scalability becomes the biggest issue pretty quickly.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Michel <<a href="mailto:micheldegeofroy@gmail.com">micheldegeofroy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Cool<br>
><br>
> In conjunction with piratebox Like drop box/relay or gateway to backbone it would kick off quite fast<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
> On Oct 20, 2012, at 20:51, Paul Gardner-Stephen <<a href="mailto:paul@servalproject.org">paul@servalproject.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Serval Rhizome is designed to make good use of Sneakernet type links.<br>
>> We can already do SMS-type messaging, file distribution (including<br>
>> offering software updates) etc via it.<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Michel de Geofroy<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:micheldegeofroy@gmail.com">micheldegeofroy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> If line of sight is not presently feasible encrypted tunnels should bridge<br>
>>> the gap or even physical carriers could use flash memory on phone or ssd<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:hans@guardianproject.info">hans@guardianproject.info</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 10/20/2012 11:49 AM, Henning Rogge wrote:<br>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Gui Iribarren <<a href="mailto:gui@altermundi.net">gui@altermundi.net</a>><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner<br>
>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:hans@guardianproject.info">hans@guardianproject.info</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> On 10/20/2012 02:29 AM, Henning Rogge wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Paul Gardner-Stephen<br>
>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:paul@servalproject.org">paul@servalproject.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>> WiFi long-shots from USA->Alaska->Russia->Europe should be possible?<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Only with really high towers or a relay station on the island in the<br>
>>>>>>>> Bering Strait.<br>
>>>>>>>> (its nearly 100 km of water if you don't have a relay on the island)<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> 125 miles/200km with 300mW wifi:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> <a href="http://boingboing.net/2005/07/31/defcon-wifi-shootout.html" target="_blank">http://boingboing.net/2005/07/31/defcon-wifi-shootout.html</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli et al [0] actually did a ~400km link on 2.4ghz,<br>
>>>>>> but those distances (including the defcon wifi shootout), are only<br>
>>>>>> possible because of the heights provided by generous mountains.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> [0]:<br>
>>>>>> <a href="https://interred.wordpress.com/2007/06/18/ermanno-pietrosemoli-has-set-a-new-record-for-the-longest-communication-wi-fi-link/" target="_blank">https://interred.wordpress.com/2007/06/18/ermanno-pietrosemoli-has-set-a-new-record-for-the-longest-communication-wi-fi-link/</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Exactly... I was more worried about "curving of Earth" than about power.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If you're talking Alaska to Russia, you only need 40km links because there<br>
>>>> is<br>
>>>> an island in between, as well as a 600m peak right on the shore:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=alaska&aq=&sll=40.697488,-73.979681&sspn=0.559109,0.810242&vpsrc=6&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Alaska&ll=65.650349,-168.527527&spn=0.608111,1.620483&z=9" target="_blank">http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=alaska&aq=&sll=40.697488,-73.979681&sspn=0.559109,0.810242&vpsrc=6&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Alaska&ll=65.650349,-168.527527&spn=0.608111,1.620483&z=9</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> And if you really need height, other parts of Alaska have 6000m peaks like<br>
>>>> Denali.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> .hc<br>
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