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</div><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">Best wishes,</div><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">Amadeus</div><div apple-content-edited="true" class=""><br class=""></div>
<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 30 Jul 2015, at 10:42, Nemesis <<a href="mailto:nemesis@ninux.org" class="">nemesis@ninux.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Although I don't like the name "Code of conduct", I support the practice<br class="">of protecting individuals from harassment.<br class=""><br class="">I am really tired of participating to wireless community initiatives and<br class="">being harassed verbally or via mail.<br class=""><br class="">At the battlemesh this has not happened - YET. Yes there have been<br class="">heated discussions but that's ok and we need that!<br class=""><br class="">But we should be able to deal with harassment it if it happens.<br class=""><br class="">What do I mean for harassment? Stuff like yelling, bad sexist jokes,<br class="">racism, bullying, threaths and I would go as far as to mention seeding<br class="">discontent and mistrust in the community.<br class=""><br class="">The bad thing about harassment is that it will make your community lose<br class="">genuine participants while the harassers and the bullies remain, in the<br class="">long run you'll have a group of bullies and passive people that tolerate<br class="">them, while the rest who can't tolerate the bullies will leave. I've<br class="">seen this situation happening several times already over the years and<br class="">it's very demotivating.<br class=""><br class="">The event organizers and hosts can deal with it - if they want. It's<br class="">just a matter of will. And it is surely much easier to enforce such<br class="">giudelines during an event that happens in a week rather than an entire<br class="">wireless community that needs ongoing effort.<br class=""><br class="">I think the price to pay for enforcing a code of conduct it's much<br class="">cheaper than the price to pay for tolerating harassment, which<br class="">ultimately leads to the death of a community.<br class=""><br class="">+1 for a code of conduct, or if you like a better name, participation<br class="">guidelines.<br class=""><br class="">Federico<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 07/30/2015 04:00 AM, Mitar wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi!<br class=""><br class="">OK, I hopped it is clear why code of conduct is needed.<br class=""><br class="">Code of conduct is to empower individuals who experience conduct<br class="">violation. Not for the community as a whole. If community as a whole<br class="">experience something problematic, community can handle it. But the<br class="">question is what are we providing to individuals to feel safe and<br class="">welcome? Are we providing for them some "rules of the space" to give<br class="">them such safe space? So that they can know what to expect, that their<br class="">backs are covered, and what are steps they can take if they feel violated.<br class=""><br class="">Also, having code of conduct is useful because it can make violations be<br class="">handled privately, without victim having to expose themselves publicly,<br class="">making the whole thing public. Sometimes it can be a pretty easy<br class="">solution (apologizing and recognizing the issue), but if the issue gets<br class="">pumped to the whole community, because this is the only way we know how<br class="">to deal with things, it can get out of hands (victim blaming/shaming, etc.).<br class=""><br class="">We want our conference to be inclusive and safe space. And existence of<br class="">code of conduct is a signal that we are at least trying to make it so.<br class=""><br class="">If you feel that it is not needed, congratulations, you are lucky and/or<br class="">privileged. But can you imagine a situation when something happens to<br class="">somebody/they experience something and they do not know what to do? To<br class="">whom to talk? What, the best option is to send a public e-mail to the<br class="">mailing list?<br class=""><br class="">If your answer is, "no, they should just go and talk to XY", exactly,<br class="">then we have a code of conduct, so let's just write it down.<br class=""><br class="">This one is a good code of conduct for events:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://opensourcebridge.org/about/code-of-conduct/" class="">http://opensourcebridge.org/about/code-of-conduct/</a><br class=""><br class="">Another great resource:<br class=""><br class="">http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Policy<br class=""><br class="">(See the answer under "Why have an official anti-harassment policy for<br class="">your conference?")<br class=""><br class="">http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Code_of_conduct_evaluations<br class=""><br class="">See also section under "diversity":<br class=""><br class="">https://opensource.com/life/15/7/how-to-plan-an-open-source-event<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Mitar<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">On 29/07/15 20:48, Gio wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I agree with Antonio, in the past we had an incident with a talk that was<br class="">military propaganda, almost everyone boycotted the talk as soon as she/he<br class="">realized it was military propaganda, there was no code of conduct but<br class="">community expressed his will, and from that moment everyone know that<br class="">military<br class="">stuff are not welcomed at Battlemesh<br class=""></blockquote>You should probably rephrase that to 'any propaganda / marketing talk is<br class="">not welcome, and that includes from government, companies and everyone<br class="">else'.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Battlemesh mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Battlemesh@ml.ninux.org" class="">Battlemesh@ml.ninux.org</a><br class="">http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>