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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/08/2015 06:06 PM, cmsv wrote:<br>
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On 12/07/2015 10:40 AM, Nemesis wrote:
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>On 12/05/2015 05:48 AM, fboehm wrote:
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>Am 04.12.15 um 17:38 schrieb Nemesis:
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>Having a design background and having designed websites and logos as a
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>professional freelancer for 7 years I keep suggesting to you all to stop
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>wasting valuable resources, energy and emails on this issue every year.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>The logo is the most important way through which people recognize an
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>idea, conference, brand, community or product, changing it every year is
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>a very bad decision from a communication point of view.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>So I won't waste time saying what we should not do because that is not
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>the way logos are designed. Logos are designed to endure several years
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>and the process involves studying IN PRIMIS what kind of message you
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>want to send out, not what you don't want to send out.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>My 2 cents
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>Nemesis
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>> </span>On 12/04/2015 09:08 AM, cmsv wrote:
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>Hello guys,
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>It seems that this years logo and possibly poster suggestions may
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>not be
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>as usual as in previous years. Some people have some ideas that may or
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>may not be in the best interest of the majority and or the event itself
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>></span>
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>So in order to get to a consensus and maybe a standard for future
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>designs, we could all give a few cents to this thread with what should
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>not be part of a logo or moderated.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>A few things that have been said:
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>* Avoid state symbols (in an affirmative way)
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>* No military and war related references & symbols
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>* Avoid colonialism symbols
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>* Stereotypical and cultural references that can be depreciative
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>Perhaps and before continuing with logo designs we could decide what
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>>>> </span>else to avoid in there.
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<pre wrap=""><span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>Nemesis, I couldn't agree more.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>Don't get me wrong, I like the individual logos and also helped in the
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>past with a logo. But also from a ressource mgmt standpoint we run off
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>the track with this task. Why not derive one simple logo from the
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>older logos that can be used in the upcoming years.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>I should be fine (if not helpful) to add a small flag and a date next
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">>> </span>to it to state where and when the event happens.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Sorry for the previous top-posting.
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>The logo of the v8 edition is good and general enough to be reused,
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>maybe we can just ask the designer the favour to donate us the design so
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>we can adapt the colors.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>It's a good compromise for the short term, a not time-consuming solution.
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>If this will be (finally) accepted, then at a later step we can talk
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>about a long-term solution to this problem.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Looking forward to hear feedback or alternative proposals.
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Nemesis
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I do agree.
Guys, your feedback has very good valid points.
Logo should be simple and I see no reason to not adapt the previous one
and make it the default logo for the battlemesh.
For local events, the local team can always have the poster with
something related or inherent to the event local/place and perhaps here
one can have their local place/country symbols , etc.
I guess now, we only need to hear from the top brass if they agree
having that logo or prefer another one to be the battlemesh symbol.
After 9 editions might be time to have a default logo <span class="moz-smiley-s3" title=";)"><span>;)</span></span></pre>
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