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1. new tests this year? (Dave Taht)<br>
2. 33C3: another make wifi fast again (Benjamin Henrion)<br>
3. Re: 33C3: another make wifi fast again (Albert Rafetseder)<br>
4. Re: 33C3: another make wifi fast again (Benjamin Henrion)<br>
5. Re: 33C3: another make wifi fast again (Benjamin Henrion)<br>
6. Re: 33C3: another make wifi fast again (Benjamin Henrion)<br>
7. Re: 33C3: another make wifi fast again (Benjamin Henrion)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:55:23 -0500<br>
From: Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Battlemesh] new tests this year?<br>
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# Aircaps<br>
<br>
I would really like big "sniffer" station or three deployed to look<br>
at behaviors in the air.<br>
<br>
# Bigger route tables<br>
<br>
When I observed wlan-slovenia sending 14 packets of route update due<br>
to the size of their mesh, it occurred to me that one thing we have<br>
not been testing<br>
is what happens when you have that many routes.<br>
<br>
It would be fairly straightforward to equip the wibed testbed (or<br>
another one) with a route table say 2x the size of wlan-slovenia, or<br>
guifi, to observe what really happens as devices come and go (setting<br>
up same in ns3 might be interesting as well)<br>
<br>
# 802.11s<br>
<br>
With eero and google both shipping 802.11s solutions - this is the<br>
year of "mesh" - but not a lot is known about how they actually work.<br>
Setting up an 802.11s network would be good to add... (or at least<br>
invite someone from these places to talk about it)<br>
<br>
# AP mode<br>
<br>
adhoc is dying, what can be done with a mixture of adhoc and AP mode?<br>
What does powersave due to meshy protocols?<br>
<br>
# IoT interop<br>
<br>
802.14 + X?<br>
<br>
Another thought is sprinkle devices like the chip or pi3 around as<br>
test targets, as well as laptops, etc....<br>
<br>
# Mobility<br>
<br>
*somebody's* gotta have a drone or robot we could fly around the place<br>
on a set course with a couple extra wifi antennas attached.....<br>
<br>
# Distributed address assignment<br>
<br>
the homenet protocol (hnetd/hncpd) has yet to have a large scale test against it<br>
<br>
# 802.11ad?<br>
<br>
--<br>
Dave T?ht<br>
Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!<br>
<a href="http://blog.cerowrt.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blog.cerowrt.org</a><br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:50:32 +0100<br>
From: Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Battlemesh] 33C3: another make wifi fast again<br>
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33C3: another make wifi fast again:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-<wbr>7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again</a><br>
<br>
In German unfortunately...<br>
<br>
Most of the 5Ghz band needs DFS in Europe...<br>
<br>
--<br>
Benjamin Henrion <bhenrion at <a href="http://ffii.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ffii.org</a>><br>
FFII Brussels - <a href="tel:%2B32-484-566109" value="+32484566109">+32-484-566109</a> - <a href="tel:%2B32-2-3500762" value="+3223500762">+32-2-3500762</a><br>
"In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software<br>
patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy.<br>
Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of<br>
software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent<br>
court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their<br>
favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or<br>
democratically elected legislators."<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:26:02 +0100<br>
From: Albert Rafetseder <<a href="mailto:albert.rafetseder%2Bv10@univie.ac.at">albert.rafetseder+v10@univie.<wbr>ac.at</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Battlemesh] 33C3: another make wifi fast again<br>
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Hi Benjamin,<br>
<br>
Am 28/12/16 um 09:50 schrieb Benjamin Henrion:<br>
> 33C3: another make wifi fast again:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-<wbr>7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again</a><br>
><br>
> In German unfortunately...<br>
<br>
The MP4 file contains an English voice-over as the second audio track.<br>
<br>
If you use VLC, switch to the other track via the menu:<br>
<br>
Audio > Audio Track > Track 2 - [English]<br>
<br>
(However, there is no translation for the slides AFAICT.)<br>
<br>
Albert.<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:39:32 +0100<br>
From: Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Battlemesh] 33C3: another make wifi fast again<br>
To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List <<a href="mailto:battlemesh@ml.ninux.org">battlemesh@ml.ninux.org</a>><br>
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On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Albert Rafetseder<br>
<<a href="mailto:albert.rafetseder%2Bv10@univie.ac.at">albert.rafetseder+v10@univie.<wbr>ac.at</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Benjamin,<br>
><br>
> Am 28/12/16 um 09:50 schrieb Benjamin Henrion:<br>
>> 33C3: another make wifi fast again:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-<wbr>7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again</a><br>
>><br>
>> In German unfortunately...<br>
><br>
> The MP4 file contains an English voice-over as the second audio track.<br>
><br>
> If you use VLC, switch to the other track via the menu:<br>
><br>
> Audio > Audio Track > Track 2 - [English]<br>
><br>
> (However, there is no translation for the slides AFAICT.)<br>
<br>
Thanks for the tip, however I had the same problem with the European<br>
Parliament videos, which uses the same trick to save space on their<br>
side, but make things very complicated for the end user.<br>
<br>
It would be simpler to make a second video with the audio track in<br>
english. Most browsers that play videos inside don't support this<br>
feature of switching audio channels.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Benjamin Henrion <bhenrion at <a href="http://ffii.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ffii.org</a>><br>
FFII Brussels - <a href="tel:%2B32-484-566109" value="+32484566109">+32-484-566109</a> - <a href="tel:%2B32-2-3500762" value="+3223500762">+32-2-3500762</a><br>
"In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software<br>
patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy.<br>
Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of<br>
software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent<br>
court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their<br>
favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or<br>
democratically elected legislators."<br>
<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:57:50 +0100<br>
From: Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Battlemesh] 33C3: another make wifi fast again<br>
To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List <<a href="mailto:battlemesh@ml.ninux.org">battlemesh@ml.ninux.org</a>><br>
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On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Albert Rafetseder<br>
> <<a href="mailto:albert.rafetseder%2Bv10@univie.ac.at">albert.rafetseder+v10@univie.<wbr>ac.at</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hi Benjamin,<br>
>><br>
>> Am 28/12/16 um 09:50 schrieb Benjamin Henrion:<br>
>>> 33C3: another make wifi fast again:<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-<wbr>7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> In German unfortunately...<br>
>><br>
>> The MP4 file contains an English voice-over as the second audio track.<br>
>><br>
>> If you use VLC, switch to the other track via the menu:<br>
>><br>
>> Audio > Audio Track > Track 2 - [English]<br>
>><br>
>> (However, there is no translation for the slides AFAICT.)<br>
><br>
> Thanks for the tip, however I had the same problem with the European<br>
> Parliament videos, which uses the same trick to save space on their<br>
> side, but make things very complicated for the end user.<br>
><br>
> It would be simpler to make a second video with the audio track in<br>
> english. Most browsers that play videos inside don't support this<br>
> feature of switching audio channels.<br>
<br>
In english here:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V48slukR3zQ" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=V48slukR3zQ</a><br>
<br>
--<br>
Benjamin Henrion <bhenrion at <a href="http://ffii.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ffii.org</a>><br>
FFII Brussels - <a href="tel:%2B32-484-566109" value="+32484566109">+32-484-566109</a> - <a href="tel:%2B32-2-3500762" value="+3223500762">+32-2-3500762</a><br>
"In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software<br>
patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy.<br>
Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of<br>
software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent<br>
court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their<br>
favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or<br>
democratically elected legislators."<br>
<br>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:07:28 +0100<br>
From: Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Battlemesh] 33C3: another make wifi fast again<br>
To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List <<a href="mailto:battlemesh@ml.ninux.org">battlemesh@ml.ninux.org</a>><br>
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On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Albert Rafetseder<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:albert.rafetseder%2Bv10@univie.ac.at">albert.rafetseder+v10@univie.<wbr>ac.at</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> Hi Benjamin,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Am 28/12/16 um 09:50 schrieb Benjamin Henrion:<br>
>>>> 33C3: another make wifi fast again:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-<wbr>7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> In German unfortunately...<br>
>>><br>
>>> The MP4 file contains an English voice-over as the second audio track.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If you use VLC, switch to the other track via the menu:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Audio > Audio Track > Track 2 - [English]<br>
>>><br>
>>> (However, there is no translation for the slides AFAICT.)<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for the tip, however I had the same problem with the European<br>
>> Parliament videos, which uses the same trick to save space on their<br>
>> side, but make things very complicated for the end user.<br>
>><br>
>> It would be simpler to make a second video with the audio track in<br>
>> english. Most browsers that play videos inside don't support this<br>
>> feature of switching audio channels.<br>
><br>
> In english here:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V48slukR3zQ" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=V48slukR3zQ</a><br>
<br>
Finally beamforming in 802.11ac. In 802.11n it was optional. Now he<br>
also says this is an AP feature, as "clients" don't have many<br>
antennas.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Benjamin Henrion <bhenrion at <a href="http://ffii.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ffii.org</a>><br>
FFII Brussels - <a href="tel:%2B32-484-566109" value="+32484566109">+32-484-566109</a> - <a href="tel:%2B32-2-3500762" value="+3223500762">+32-2-3500762</a><br>
"In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software<br>
patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy.<br>
Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of<br>
software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent<br>
court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their<br>
favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or<br>
democratically elected legislators."<br>
<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:10:21 +0100<br>
From: Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Battlemesh] 33C3: another make wifi fast again<br>
To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List <<a href="mailto:battlemesh@ml.ninux.org">battlemesh@ml.ninux.org</a>><br>
Message-ID:<br>
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On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Benjamin Henrion <<a href="mailto:zoobab@gmail.com">zoobab@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Albert Rafetseder<br>
>>> <<a href="mailto:albert.rafetseder%2Bv10@univie.ac.at">albert.rafetseder+v10@univie.<wbr>ac.at</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi Benjamin,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Am 28/12/16 um 09:50 schrieb Benjamin Henrion:<br>
>>>>> 33C3: another make wifi fast again:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> <a href="https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-<wbr>7911-make_wi-fi_fast_again</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> In German unfortunately...<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The MP4 file contains an English voice-over as the second audio track.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If you use VLC, switch to the other track via the menu:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Audio > Audio Track > Track 2 - [English]<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> (However, there is no translation for the slides AFAICT.)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks for the tip, however I had the same problem with the European<br>
>>> Parliament videos, which uses the same trick to save space on their<br>
>>> side, but make things very complicated for the end user.<br>
>>><br>
>>> It would be simpler to make a second video with the audio track in<br>
>>> english. Most browsers that play videos inside don't support this<br>
>>> feature of switching audio channels.<br>
>><br>
>> In english here:<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V48slukR3zQ" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=V48slukR3zQ</a><br>
><br>
> Finally beamforming in 802.11ac. In 802.11n it was optional. Now he<br>
> also says this is an AP feature, as "clients" don't have many<br>
> antennas.<br>
<br>
Actually beamforming is the "killer feature" for mesh, as airtime<br>
pollution is further reduced.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Benjamin Henrion <bhenrion at <a href="http://ffii.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ffii.org</a>><br>
FFII Brussels - <a href="tel:%2B32-484-566109" value="+32484566109">+32-484-566109</a> - <a href="tel:%2B32-2-3500762" value="+3223500762">+32-2-3500762</a><br>
"In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software<br>
patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy.<br>
Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of<br>
software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent<br>
court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their<br>
favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or<br>
democratically elected legislators."<br>
<br>
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