[ham-ninux] mi sono fatto una ICOM ID-31E

Alessandro (aka ArkaNet) arkantiko at gmail.com
Mon Apr 28 21:24:31 UTC 2014


Appena conferito in chat con possessore CS700, confermata compatibilità DMR
mototbro.
Io mi piglio il cinesino, massimo rispetto per D-Star, ICOM e scelta
(comunque ottima - a quel prezzo se non fossi così 'estroso' me lo sarei
preso al volo) di Alessio

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Arka
Il 28/apr/2014 18:32 "Pierluigi Checchi" <p.checchi at ieee.org> ha scritto:

> http://hamgear.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/dmr-primer.pdf
>
>
> 2014-04-28 17:54 GMT+02:00 Pierluigi Checchi <p.checchi at ieee.org>:
>
>> DMR is the two-timeslot TDMA standard using a whole 12.5kHz channel 50%
>> (e.g.MotoTRBO) and Tier 1 is for licence free digital PMR446.
>> dPMR/NXDN is the 100% duty cycle FDMA standard (e.g. Icom IDAS) where
>> dPMR is 6.25 and NXDN is either 12.5 or 6.25
>>
>> DMR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_mobile_radio
>> dPMR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DPMR
>> NXDN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NXDN
>>
>> Yaesu is “12.5 kHz C4FM/FDMA” then that suggests it’s NXDN.
>>
>> REPLY
>> Hans
>> It isn’t that simple anymore. While technically correct, Wikipedia is not
>> up-to-date. There are now many DMR products which do not support 2 time
>> slots, but aren’t compatible with dPMR either (other vocoder).
>>
>> Best known examples are the Kirisun hand helds and the Hora mobiles.
>>
>>
>> 2014-04-28 14:56 GMT+02:00 Alessandro (aka ArkaNet) <arkantiko at gmail.com>
>> :
>>
>> A sto punto andiamo di cs700 ... anche se da un lato sono affascinato dal
>>> gps dell' ICOM
>>>
>>> --
>>> Arka
>>> Il 28/apr/2014 14:46 "Pierluigi Checchi" <p.checchi at ieee.org> ha
>>> scritto:
>>>
>>> Il display è inutile in questi apparati, che comunque hanno una
>>>> usabilità bassissima... Una volta programmati i canali sei a posto.
>>>> Direi che l'unico a buon prezzo è questo cs700, altrimenti bisogna
>>>> andare sugli hytera o attendere qualcosa di meglio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-04-28 12:14 GMT+02:00 Alessandro (aka ArkaNet) <
>>>> arkantiko at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Altro compatibile è il CS700
>>>>> http://www.funkhandel.com/Connect-Systems-CS700-DMR-Handfunkgeraet
>>>>>
>>>>> ma col display monoriga, ci fai una fava ... manco!
>>>>>
>>>>> *--
>>>>> Arka*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il giorno 28 aprile 2014 09:02, Saverio Proto <zioproto at gmail.com> ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Minkia quanto costa:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Kirisun-DP770-radio-compatable-Hytera/dp/B00JBMWTN4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ha fatto bene Alessio a prendere il D-Star :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saverio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Il 28 aprile 2014 01:15, Alessandro (aka ArkaNet)
>>>>>> <arkantiko at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>> > Opppss .. preso granchio :D
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Quello compatibile è il Kirisun DP770
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Arka
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Il giorno 28 aprile 2014 00:57, Alessandro (aka ArkaNet)
>>>>>> > <arkantiko at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Non so ... poi alla fine io cerco sempre il prodotto con
>>>>>> coefficiente
>>>>>> >> prezzo/qualità/comodità nei limiti del "piacevole"
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Stando a vedere le certificazioni, però, sembra conforme
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> http://dmrassociation.org/dmr-equipment-manufacturers-product-showcase/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> http://dmrassociation.org/2013/03/08/january-2013-hytera-and-kirisun-tier-ii/
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Che dire ....
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Arka
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Il giorno 27 aprile 2014 23:55, Saverio Proto <zioproto at gmail.com>
>>>>>> ha
>>>>>> >> scritto:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> Arka, occhio mi pare di capire che la Kirisun non supporta i
>>>>>> >>> ripetitori DMR. Usando solo il Tier1 non ho capito se si possono
>>>>>> usare
>>>>>> >>> i ripetitori.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> http://www.grapevinehamradio.com/2013/12/radio-review-kirisun-s780-digital-ht/
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Saverio
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Il 26 aprile 2014 20:36, Alessandro (aka ArkaNet)
>>>>>> >>> <arkantiko at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>> >>> > Complimenti Ale!
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Certo che a quel prezzo ne varrebbe comunque la pena!!
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Io vorrei farmi questo [*] che non è D-Star, ma DMR compatibile
>>>>>> >>> > MOTOTBRO
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > E ci sono funzioni veramente 'inaspettate' (ovviamente non
>>>>>> legali nel
>>>>>> >>> > campo
>>>>>> >>> > HAM) ma "fighe"
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > [*]
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> http://www.ebay.it/itm/UK-Stock-KIRISUN-S780-400-470MHZ-Digital-2-way-ham-radio-UHF-400-470Mhz-4W-/301139976916?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones_Communication_Ham_Radio_Receivers_Transceivers&hash=item461d5762d4&_uhb=1
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > --
>>>>>> >>> > Arka
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Il giorno 26 aprile 2014 20:22, Saverio Proto <
>>>>>> zioproto at gmail.com> ha
>>>>>> >>> > scritto:
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >> Minkia il prezzo è ottimo !!! Mi stai tentando quasi quasi la
>>>>>> compro
>>>>>> >>> >> anche
>>>>>> >>> >> io !!
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> Saverio
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> Il 26 aprile 2014 19:13, Alessio <nolith at abisso.org> ha
>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>> >>> >> > Alla fine volevo provare un modo digitale, il D-Star non è
>>>>>> che mi
>>>>>> >>> >> > entusiasmasse molto perché hanno fatto un fiore (standard
>>>>>> open) e ci
>>>>>> >>> >> > hanno cagato sopra (coded proprietario per l'audio).
>>>>>> >>> >> > Però è ben diffuso e ci sono un sacco di progetti opensource
>>>>>> che ci
>>>>>> >>> >> > ruotano attorno.
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> > Insomma, alla fine mi sono trovato la radio in offerta [1] e
>>>>>> non ho
>>>>>> >>> >> > saputo resistere.
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> > Il baofeng è imbattibile per il suo prezzo, ma l'ID-31E è
>>>>>> tutta
>>>>>> >>> >> > un'altra storia.
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> > Premetto che a prezzo pieno non me la sarei mai comprata.
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> > [1]
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>>> http://www.mediaglobe.it/shop/icom-ide31-portatile-dstar-integrati-p-4310.html
>>>>>> >>> >> > --
>>>>>> >>> >> > Sent with my mu4e
>>>>>> >>> >> >
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