[Ninux-day] Fwd: Re: Wrap-up

Ramon Roca ramon.roca at guifi.net
Fri Dec 4 00:21:13 CET 2009


sorry, I switched to personal and didn't answer to the list.
anyway i was answering you ;)

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Assumpte: 	Re: [Ninux-day] Wrap-up
Data: 	Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:29:41 +0100
De: 	Ramon Roca <ramon.roca at guifi.net>
A: 	clauz at ninux.org



Al 02/12/09 20:19, En/na clauz at ninux.org ha escrit:
>
>  Hello, everybody.
>  We are trying to involve others from Italy, by writing on the "digital
>  freedom" mailing list, where there are many people involved in digital
>  rights activism:
>
>  http://linux-club.org/pipermail/digitalfreedomweek/2009-December/005327.html
>  http://linux-club.org/pipermail/digitalfreedomweek/2009-December/005332.html
>
>  If you find some interesting point that you want us to translate, please
>  ask! I was thinking that it might be a good idea to invite the people
>  interested in this topic to subscribe to this mailing list so that we
>  can have a discussion on the topic in English and coordinate
>  transnationally... what do you think about it?
>
>  Claudio
>
>
Take as much advice as you can, that's always good.
In fact, I youd say that you have to set the green light, and after
that, our role is provide the support.

Regarding the discussion, I've seen that there is also mentions to other
hot/important issues, like data retention and identification. I know
that those things are also very relevant to all of us and somehow also
need to be addressed, however I would prefer not to mix too much things,
which by the way are distinct, and go step by step. IMHO the most urgent
thing is to clarify and confirm the freedom for the use on non licensed
spectrum by anyone including individuals, and point that if Italy or any
other member state restricts that by the exercise of their regulatory
competencies, it might be against UE rules like 1999/5/CE, 2002/20/CE or
the competition.

To give you an example, we do already provide much more information on
open networks than what private telcos do, and we never have been in the
feeling of the need of being affected by those regulations by now,
although Madrid was one of the cases and therefore is a very sensible
topic in Spain. Those regulations were much more addressed to mobile
operators an commercials ISPs, not us. The terrorists used mobile
phones, not wifi, wifi in real world is much more harmless compared to
those other technologies. That's why although I think is an important
issue, I don't think that we have to feel as concerned as something much
more very basic, which is to confirm the freedom to use the unlicensed
band outdoors.

Ramon.



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