<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
      http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Renaud, yes you are completely
      right.<br>
      <br>
      Initially my goal was to get out something people could start
      using asap, now we are there finally and I have to refine it.<br>
      <br>
      You can disable the networking apps just by editing your project
      settings file, I have a few instances where I do that, and in my
      settings I have:<br>
      <br>
      # ------ All settings customizations must go here ------ #<br>
      <br>
      INSTALLED_APPS.remove('nodeshot.networking.connectors')
      INSTALLED_APPS.remove('nodeshot.networking.hardware')<br>
      INSTALLED_APPS.remove('nodeshot.networking.links')<br>
      INSTALLED_APPS.remove('nodeshot.networking.net')<br>
      <br>
      Ideally all these apps will live in a separate repo dedicated to
      mesh networks, and some of those modules will live in their own
      projects (eg: links will be django-netjsongraph).<br>
      <br>
      Did you do this or did you do something different?<br>
      <br>
      Federico<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 11/30/2015 07:43 PM, Renaud wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:sig.1776ae64ff.565C98DC.9050403@manda.tagmail.eu"
      type="cite">
      <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
        http-equiv="Content-Type">
      Hi Federico,<br>
      <br>
      I completely agree with your point of view. As I told to the list
      previously I'm working on a project based on nodeshot for the
      frontend. And one of my recent challenges were to remove all the
      networking part of nodeshot without hacking nodeshot itself.<br>
      <br>
      It'd be cool to have only the core exempt of nodeshot without the
      business logic link to the original goal of the project
      (WiFi/Networks).<br>
      <br>
      My 2 cents,<br>
      Renaud<br>
      <span>
      </span><br>
      <blockquote style="border: 0px none;"
        cite="mid:sig.1776e0198b.565C8BEF.4050200@ninux.org" type="cite">
        <div style="margin:30px 25px 10px 25px;" class="__pbConvHr">
          <div style="width:100%;border-top:1px solid
            #EDEEF0;padding-top:5px">
            <div
style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:49%;">
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nemesis@ninux.org"
                style="color:#737F92
                !important;padding-right:6px;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none
                !important;">Nemesis</a></div>
            <div
              style="display:inline-block;white-space:nowrap;vertical-align:middle;width:48%;text-align:

              right;"> <font color="#9FA2A5"><span
                  style="padding-left:6px">lundi 30 novembre 2015 18:48</span></font></div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div style="color:#888888;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
          __pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody">
          <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
            http-equiv="content-type">
          <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi <font
              face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">everyone,<br>
              <br>
              <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">In the latest
                months I've been working a lot <font face="Helvetica,
                  Arial, sans-serif">in order to <font face="Helvetica,
                    Arial, sans-serif">extract some nodeshot mod<font
                      face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">ules <font
                        face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">that would <font
                          face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">be more
                          successful in separate projects<font
                            face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"> that
                            can be included into nodeshot.<br>
                            <br>
                            <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">In
                              the process of extraction I have also been
                              working on adding new features that will
                              be<font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                sans-serif"> available in nodeshot in
                                the near future.</font></font><br>
                            <br>
                            <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">These

                              features are all related to <font
                                face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">community

                                networks, which is the main use cases
                                from which nodeshot is born.<br>
                                <br>
                                <font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                  sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica,
                                    Arial, sans-serif">I'm talking about
                                    these projects:<br>
                                  </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font>
          <ul>
            <li>netdiff, pure python library that is in charge of
              analyzing network topology: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://github.com/ninuxorg/netdiff"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/ninuxorg/netdiff</a><br>
            </li>
            <li>django-netjsongraph, django app that is built on top of
              netdiff: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://github.com/interop-dev/django-netjsongraph"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/interop-dev/django-netjsongraph</a></li>
            <li>netjsongraph.js, javascript library (based on d3): <a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://github.com/interop-dev/netjsongraph.js"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/interop-dev/netjsongraph.js">https://github.com/interop-dev/netjsongraph.js</a></a></li>
            <li>netjsonconfig, pure python library that generates
              OpenWRT configurations: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://github.com/openwisp/netjsonconfig"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/openwisp/netjsonconfig</a></li>
          </ul>
          <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
              face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica,
                Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                  sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                      face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                        face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                          face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                            face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                              face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                  face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The
                                  good news is<font face="Helvetica,
                                    Arial, sans-serif"> I'm very
                                    satisfied with the results I'm
                                    obtaining!<br>
                                    <font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                      sans-serif">The bad news is that
                                      it will <font face="Helvetica,
                                        Arial, sans-serif">take longer
                                        than expected to finish th</font>e
                                      process and release the 1.0.<br>
                                      <font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                        sans-serif">The truth is I was
                                        not satisfied with the quality
                                        of the current <font
                                          face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                          sans-serif">architecture in
                                          nodeshot. <font
                                            face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                            sans-serif">I would
                                            especially like to separate
                                            completely the nodeshot core
                                            from the <font
                                              face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                              sans-serif">networking
                                              features, <font
                                                face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                                sans-serif">simplify
                                                some module<font
                                                  face="Helvetica,
                                                  Arial, sans-serif">s
                                                  and remove a<font
                                                    face="Helvetica,
                                                    Arial, sans-serif">
                                                    few c<font
                                                      face="Helvetica,
                                                      Arial, sans-serif">umbersome

                                                      hacks</font></font></font></font>.<br>
                                              <br>
                                            </font></font>I want to
                                          finish <font face="Helvetica,
                                            Arial, sans-serif">this
                                            process <font
                                              face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                              sans-serif">before
                                              releasing <font
                                                face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                                sans-serif">the 1.0<font
                                                  face="Helvetica,
                                                  Arial, sans-serif">,
                                                  because 1.0 is meant
                                                  to be a stable
                                                  release, after the 1.0
                                                  is out <font
                                                    face="Helvetica,
                                                    Arial, sans-serif">I
                                                    <font
                                                      face="Helvetica,
                                                      Arial, sans-serif">won't
                                                      be able to do <font
                                                        face="Helvetica,
                                                        Arial,
                                                        sans-serif">drastic


                                                        change<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">s<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">
                                                          anymore, so I
                                                          think it's
                                                          better <font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">to
                                                          solve th<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">ese


                                                          problems right
                                                          now<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">,
                                                          I<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">'m
                                                          sure that the
                                                          benefits in
                                                          the long term
                                                          will be <font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">long


                                                          lasting.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">I've


                                                          talked a lot
                                                          about the
                                                          reasons that
                                                          led me to
                                                          these
                                                          decisions<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">
                                                          at different
                                                          events</font>,
                                                          <font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">eg
                                                          at</font> the
                                                          <font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">Battlemesh


                                                          v8 in Slovenia<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">
                                                          which<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">
                                                          is</font></font><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">
                                                          on youtube </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font><font
            face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica,
              Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                    face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                      face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                        face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                          face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                            face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                              face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                  face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                    face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                      face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                      sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica,
                                        Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                          face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                          sans-serif"><font
                                            face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                            sans-serif"><font
                                              face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                              sans-serif"><font
                                                face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                                sans-serif"><font
                                                  face="Helvetica,
                                                  Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                                    face="Helvetica,
                                                    Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                                      face="Helvetica,
                                                      Arial, sans-serif"><font
                                                        face="Helvetica,
                                                        Arial,
                                                        sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFQKtIWL8vk"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFQKtIWL8vk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFQKtIWL8vk</a></a><font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">.</font></font> </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font>
                                                          </font><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">Pheraphs


                                                          we could just
                                                          rel<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">ease


                                                          a 0.10 s<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">omewhen


                                                          soon</font> <font
                                                          face="Helvetica,

                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">...</font></font></font><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">Federico</font><br>
                                                        </font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font></font>
          <div>_______________________________________________<br>
            Nodeshot mailing list<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
              href="mailto:Nodeshot@ml.ninux.org">Nodeshot@ml.ninux.org</a><br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
              href="http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/nodeshot">http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/nodeshot</a><br>
          </div>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Nodeshot mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Nodeshot@ml.ninux.org">Nodeshot@ml.ninux.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/nodeshot">http://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/nodeshot</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>