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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Il semplice peering tra due AS permette
      di raggiungere internet se l'altro AS ti fa fare transito
      altrimenti ti attacchi e scambi traffico solo su quell'AS.<br>
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      Nemesis<br>
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      On 01/14/2014 10:12 PM, federico la morgia wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Quindi il semplice peering tra due AS non permette
        di raggiungere internet ? ma scusa internet non è fatto da tanti
        AS ?<br>
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          <hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 07:40:26 +0100<br>
          From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:andrea.pescetelli@gmail.com">andrea.pescetelli@gmail.com</a><br>
          To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wireless@ml.ninux.org">wireless@ml.ninux.org</a><br>
          Subject: Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Ninux.org si connette al NaMeX<br>
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            <div>Via sul sito de Namex e leggi<br>
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            Inoltre Devi trovare anche un operatore che ti fa da upstrem
            se vuoi banda e pagarlo una volta arrivato la.<br>
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              Il giorno 10 gennaio 2014 22:10, federico la morgia <span
                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:super_treje@hotmail.com" target="_blank">super_treje@hotmail.com</a>></span>
              ha scritto:<br>
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                  <div>Cosa di preciso non è così ?<br>
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                    --- Messaggio originale ---<br>
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                    Da: "Andrea Pescetelli" <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:andrea.pescetelli@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank">andrea.pescetelli@gmail.com</a>><br>
                    Inviata: 10 gennaio 2014 20:46<br>
                    A: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://ninux.org" target="_blank">ninux.org</a>
                    [ninux_wireless]" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:wireless@ml.ninux.org"
                      target="_blank">wireless@ml.ninux.org</a>><br>
                    Oggetto: Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Ninux.org si connette
                    al NaMeX<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Non e' cosi >Gigabit<br>
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                          <div>Il giorno 10 gennaio 2014 19:11, federico
                            la morgia <span dir="ltr">
                              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:super_treje@hotmail.com"
                                target="_blank">super_treje@hotmail.com</a>></span>
                            ha scritto:<br>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Tutto corretto Federico,
                                  se non vado errato a conti fatti al
                                  Namex dovrebbe essere circa 2.5K€/anno
                                  per avere un peering a 100 mbit/s con
                                  1 porta di riserva, che dovrebbe
                                  essere ciò che è stato fatto per
                                  Ninux.<br>
                                  Ovviamente prezzi irrisori per un ISP
                                  sono irrisori anche in tagli
                                  superiori.<br>
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                                    Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:47:38
                                    +0100<br>
                                    From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:nemesis@ninux.org"
                                      target="_blank">nemesis@ninux.org</a><br>
                                    To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:wireless@ml.ninux.org"
                                      target="_blank">wireless@ml.ninux.org</a><br>
                                    Subject: Re: [Ninux-Wireless]
                                    Ninux.org si connette al NaMeX<br>
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                                    <div>On 01/10/2014 02:20 PM,
                                      Francesco d'Elia wrote:<br>
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                                      <pre>E' senza dubbio una bellissima notizia.. Ninux è nell'elenco degli
afferenti insieme a Google, Fastweb, Telecom, etc..

Questa consorziazione andrà ovviamente pagata ogni anno oppure il
NaMeX ha accettato Ninux pro-bono..?
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                                    <font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                      sans-serif">Pro bono a fini
                                      sperimentali per un anno.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                        sans-serif">Starà a noi capire
                                        come potremo rendere la cosa
                                        sostenibile
                                        <font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                          sans-serif">a lungo termine.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <font face="Helvetica, Arial,
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                                              credo che dovremmo dare a<font
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                                                qualche migli<font
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                                                  d'e<font
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                                                    l'anno. Chiedo ai
                                                    più esperti di
                                                    correggermi.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Gli operatori sono
                                                    preoccupati che
                                                    cominceremo a fargli
                                                    concorrenza, ma a n<font
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                                                      non interessa
                                                      minimamente
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                                                        tra noi ci sono
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                                                          che lavorano
                                                          in vari ISP<font
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                                                          (anche grossi)
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                                                        Più che altro,
                                                        ci interessa</font>
                                                      <font
                                                        face="Helvetica,
                                                        Arial,
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                                                        mettere su dei
                                                        servizi
                                                        raggiungibili
                                                        anche
                                                        dall'esterno
                                                        della rete ninux
                                                        e sper<font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">imentare
                                                          nuove
                                                          tecnologie</font>.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <font
                                                          face="Helvetica,
                                                          Arial,
                                                          sans-serif">Poi
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                                                          ovviamente <font
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                                                          che vogliono
                                                          internet
                                                          gratis ci sono
                                                          sempre, però
                                                          sappiamo
                                                          benissimo che
                                                          la cosa non
                                                          scala.<br>
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                                                          <font
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                                                          as in freedom<font
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                                                          not as in
                                                          <font
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                                                          beer"</font></font></font><br>
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                                    <font face="Helvetica, Arial,
                                      sans-serif">Nemesis</font><br>
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