[Battlemesh] International links between Austria, Croatia, and Slovenia

Paul Gardner-Stephen paul at servalproject.org
Sun Oct 21 03:15:07 CEST 2012


We are getting pretty close to having that sort of gateway/backbone
connection working with Rhizome, so yes, the potential is there.
Scalability becomes the biggest issue pretty quickly.

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Michel <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Cool
>
> In conjunction with piratebox Like drop box/relay or gateway to backbone it would kick off quite fast
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 20, 2012, at 20:51, Paul Gardner-Stephen <paul at servalproject.org> wrote:
>
>> Serval Rhizome is designed to make good use of Sneakernet type links.
>> We can already do SMS-type messaging, file distribution (including
>> offering software updates) etc via it.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Michel de Geofroy
>> <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If line of sight is not presently feasible encrypted tunnels should bridge
>>> the gap or even physical carriers could use flash memory on phone or ssd
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
>>> <hans at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/20/2012 11:49 AM, Henning Rogge wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Gui Iribarren <gui at altermundi.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
>>>>>> <hans at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/20/2012 02:29 AM, Henning Rogge wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Paul Gardner-Stephen
>>>>>>>> <paul at servalproject.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> WiFi long-shots from USA->Alaska->Russia->Europe should be possible?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only with really high towers or a relay station on the island in the
>>>>>>>> Bering Strait.
>>>>>>>> (its nearly 100 km of water if you don't have a relay on the island)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 125 miles/200km with 300mW wifi:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://boingboing.net/2005/07/31/defcon-wifi-shootout.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ermanno Pietrosemoli et al [0] actually did a ~400km link on 2.4ghz,
>>>>>> but those distances (including the defcon wifi shootout), are only
>>>>>> possible because of the heights provided by generous mountains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [0]:
>>>>>> https://interred.wordpress.com/2007/06/18/ermanno-pietrosemoli-has-set-a-new-record-for-the-longest-communication-wi-fi-link/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly... I was more worried about "curving of Earth" than about power.
>>>>
>>>> If you're talking Alaska to Russia, you only need 40km links because there
>>>> is
>>>> an island in between, as well as a 600m peak right on the shore:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=alaska&aq=&sll=40.697488,-73.979681&sspn=0.559109,0.810242&vpsrc=6&t=h&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Alaska&ll=65.650349,-168.527527&spn=0.608111,1.620483&z=9
>>>>
>>>> And if you really need height, other parts of Alaska have 6000m peaks like
>>>> Denali.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .hc
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