[Battlemesh] Code of conduct

[Mitar]

Hi!

Please, look at the "Expected Behavior" and "Unacceptable Behavior"
sections and tell me which of those are "seriously damaging the spirit
of the WBM"?

http://opensourcebridge.org/about/code-of-conduct/


Mitar

> Hi!
> 
> Just to be clear, so you are saying that by not allowing, for example,
> sexists jokes at the event we are "seriously damaging the spirit of the
> WBM"?
> 
> 
> Mitar
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is my proposal to avoid a potential long discussion which it my
>> end up with the imposition of rules to people who do not want them,
>> which, in turn, would seriously damage what for me is the spirit of
>> the WBM.
>>
>> The proposal is simple: create a registry with those who want to have
>> any kind of regulation as the ones proposed, apply the regulations to
>> the registry members and leave the rest alone.
>>
>> And please, clarify if the regulation must be applied in the case
>> where the offender is registered but the victim is not.
>>
>> kind regards.
>>
>>
>> On 30 July 2015 at 10:49, Amadeus Alfa <amadeus at chemnitz.freifunk.net> wrote:
>>> According to the statistics 9 out of 10 people think bullying is ok.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Amadeus
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 Jul 2015, at 10:42, Nemesis <nemesis at ninux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Although I don't like the name "Code of conduct", I support the practice
>>> of protecting individuals from harassment.
>>>
>>> I am really tired of participating to wireless community initiatives and
>>> being harassed verbally or via mail.
>>>
>>> At the battlemesh this has not happened - YET. Yes there have been
>>> heated discussions but that's ok and we need that!
>>>
>>> But we should be able to deal with harassment it if it happens.
>>>
>>> What do I mean for harassment? Stuff like yelling, bad sexist jokes,
>>> racism, bullying, threaths and I would go as far as to mention seeding
>>> discontent and mistrust in the community.
>>>
>>> The bad thing about harassment is that it will make your community lose
>>> genuine participants while the harassers and the bullies remain, in the
>>> long run you'll have a group of bullies and passive people that tolerate
>>> them, while the rest who can't tolerate the bullies will leave. I've
>>> seen this situation happening several times already over the years and
>>> it's very demotivating.
>>>
>>> The event organizers and hosts can deal with it - if they want. It's
>>> just a matter of will. And it is surely much easier to enforce such
>>> giudelines during an event that happens in a week rather than an entire
>>> wireless community that needs ongoing effort.
>>>
>>> I think the price to pay for enforcing a code of conduct it's much
>>> cheaper than the price to pay for tolerating harassment, which
>>> ultimately leads to the death of a community.
>>>
>>> +1 for a code of conduct, or if you like a better name, participation
>>> guidelines.
>>>
>>> Federico
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/30/2015 04:00 AM, Mitar wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> OK, I hopped it is clear why code of conduct is needed.
>>>
>>> Code of conduct is to empower individuals who experience conduct
>>> violation. Not for the community as a whole. If community as a whole
>>> experience something problematic, community can handle it. But the
>>> question is what are we providing to individuals to feel safe and
>>> welcome? Are we providing for them some "rules of the space" to give
>>> them such safe space? So that they can know what to expect, that their
>>> backs are covered, and what are steps they can take if they feel violated.
>>>
>>> Also, having code of conduct is useful because it can make violations be
>>> handled privately, without victim having to expose themselves publicly,
>>> making the whole thing public. Sometimes it can be a pretty easy
>>> solution (apologizing and recognizing the issue), but if the issue gets
>>> pumped to the whole community, because this is the only way we know how
>>> to deal with things, it can get out of hands (victim blaming/shaming, etc.).
>>>
>>> We want our conference to be inclusive and safe space. And existence of
>>> code of conduct is a signal that we are at least trying to make it so.
>>>
>>> If you feel that it is not needed, congratulations, you are lucky and/or
>>> privileged. But can you imagine a situation when something happens to
>>> somebody/they experience something and they do not know what to do? To
>>> whom to talk? What, the best option is to send a public e-mail to the
>>> mailing list?
>>>
>>> If your answer is, "no, they should just go and talk to XY", exactly,
>>> then we have a code of conduct, so let's just write it down.
>>>
>>> This one is a good code of conduct for events:
>>>
>>> http://opensourcebridge.org/about/code-of-conduct/
>>>
>>> Another great resource:
>>>
>>> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Policy
>>>
>>> (See the answer under "Why have an official anti-harassment policy for
>>> your conference?")
>>>
>>> http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Code_of_conduct_evaluations
>>>
>>> See also section under "diversity":
>>>
>>> https://opensource.com/life/15/7/how-to-plan-an-open-source-event
>>>
>>>
>>> Mitar
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29/07/15 20:48, Gio wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Antonio, in the past we had an incident with a talk that was
>>> military propaganda, almost everyone boycotted the talk as soon as she/he
>>> realized it was military propaganda, there was no code of conduct but
>>> community expressed his will, and from that moment everyone know that
>>> military
>>> stuff are not welcomed at Battlemesh
>>>
>>> You should probably rephrase that to 'any propaganda / marketing talk is
>>> not welcome, and that includes from government, companies and everyone
>>> else'.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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