[Battlemesh] [Office] FCC Firmware lockdown
L. Aaron Kaplan
aaron at lo-res.org
Fri Sep 4 18:08:52 CEST 2015
On Sep 4, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Luis and Paul;
>
> In whose interest is it to stop unauthorised software?
>
As weird as it sounds but actually it really helps keeping the devices terribly insecure.
You guess who would be interested in that...
> To my understanding these directives also cover stuff like wifi
> connected pace-makers and so.
Oh, now your' talking ;) Sweet!
But there is a problem with that part, see the next sentence.
> Health care apparatuses used for the
> elderly, automobile on board entertainment systems and so forth.
>
Well, in that case - at least over here - we are not allowed to update them
anyway. They need to be certified and after certification they MUST NEVER be updated nor changed
unless they will be re-certified (and that usually takes one year).
So nobody does that. I won't talk about the IT security issues of these devices now. You figure :)
> There are also blanket exemptions in Annex I for anything which is not
> used commercially of the directive.
>
Would that cover stuff we are doing in community wireless networks?
> If there is a strong commercial interest behind stopping unauthorized
> software that is clearly a bigger problem than if this is just a
> precautionary measure by the legislature to impose more liability on
> large-scale vendors of radio equipment to various other society sectors.
>
true
> One way to certify experimental solutions could perhaps be to ask the
> national regulatory for a de minimis-exception: if the market shares are
> so small that the burden of certification is clearly unreasonable, then
> a market actor can self-certify knowing that failure to do so adequately
> will impose liabilities. This rule could apply for any commercial actor
> which holds less than 5% of the relevant market shares within any
> particular market branch. De minimis is a known concept from competition
> law, and in this case it would serve to help small market players avoid
> impossible costs of certification. Something like this.
>
So this would be an idea for the putting into national law part?
Best,
a.
> /a
>
> On 09/03/15 23:20, Paul Fuxjaeger wrote:
>>> On 03/09/2015, Amelia Andersdotter <teirdes at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I fail to see how the EU directive hinders anyone from putting in
>>>> their own software on a radio device.
>>>>
>>>> Could someone update me? It's being implemented in Sweden with a
>>>> deadline for comments in October.
>>>>
>> Article 3, point (i) of [1]:
>>
>> "radio equipment supports certain features in order to ENSURE that
>> software can only be loaded into the radio equipment where the
>> compliance of the combination of the radio equipment and software has
>> been demonstrated."
>>
>> My current interpretation is that for all devices using SoftMAC radio
>> chipsets this necessitates a lockdown of the complete software stack.
>> Because on such devices the code that sets the regulatory rules is
>> executed in the same context as everything else.
>>
>> AFAIK, the majority of APs currently on the market is based on such an
>> architecture. Manufacturers have an alternative: switch back to more
>> complex (e.g. FullMAC) architectures that allow to lock down the radio
>> subsystem separately [2].
>>
>> To me this FCC document [3] indicates complete lockdown:
>>
>> "ENSURE that only properly authenticated software is loaded and
>> operating the device [...] manufacturers may consider applying existing
>> industry standards for strong security and authentication. It is
>> suggested that manufacturers follow existing security standards and
>> definitions: X.800, RFC 2828, and IEEE 802.11i."
>>
>> -paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX%3A32014L0053&from=EN
>>
>> [2] Enforcement of local regulatory differences is still an issue as the
>> radio subsystem cannot reliably detect where it is located without the
>> help of the host system.
>>
>> [3] http://www.heise.de/downloads/18/1/5/7/9/4/3/6/GetAttachment.pdf
>>
>
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