[Battlemesh] Chilling effect - Lockdown (FCC/EU)

Philipp Borgers borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de
Thu Feb 18 10:52:20 CET 2016


On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 10:27:50AM +0100, fboehm wrote:
> Am 17.02.2016 um 20:49 schrieb Adam Longwill:
> >Meta Mesh in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is going to be working on a blog
> >post which we will then shop to media outlets here in the US.
> >
> >That list you mentioned is exactly one of the things we'd like to put
> >together- but we'd sure like help compiling it if you're aware of
> >manufacturers doing this activity. I don't know if "shame" is the right
> >word, but technical people should be made aware of this "easy way out"
> >that the manufacturers are taking.
> >
> >Adam
> >
> >On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek
> ><jch at pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr <mailto:jch at pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr>>
> >wrote:
> >
> >    > New AC APs with lockdown from Ubiquiti:
> >    >
> >    >http://lists.prplfoundation.org/pipermail/fcc/2015-November/000462.html
> >
> >    Grr.
> >
> >    Is anyone working on compiling and publicising a list of
> >    manufacturers who
> >    do this kind of nonsense?  The time may have come to start a grassroots
> >    campaign to publicly shame manufacturers of DRM-encumbered routers.
> >
> >    -- Juliusz
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> What about manufacturers like www.8devices.com? They are working on 5GHz
> equipment currently and aren't focused on end-users. Therefore I assume no
> firmware lockdown.

Or https://www.open-mesh.com/

They support OpenWrt, BATMAN and free software in general [1].

> Why not buy from such companies and support them to produce more/better
> products for our needs. It doesn't seem to be rewarding to buy from the
> cheapest manufacturers and think that we have a stake in their decision
> making process. Who needs TP-Link?

Exactly!

But most community members perfer to think with the wallet and not the brain.

> I'm just trying to sketch a different attack vector to this problem.

So how do we implement the attack? Where do we attack first? At the brain?

> Franz

Best Philipp

[1] https://help.cloudtrax.com/hc/en-us/articles/202382890-Open-Mesh-development-information
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