[Battlemesh] IGF 2018 WS #279 Scaling community networks

[Paul Fuxjaeger]

Thanks for the initiative, I also think that this topic deserves some
attention here.

At funkfeuer, we also have been approached by crypto-economic projects
such as ammbr. We respectfully declined because of a contradiction we
see with trustless protocols in the context of a *LOCAL* community:

If the proof-of-(whatever) is not derived from a *LOCAL* structure of
trust (i.e. the people owning the nodes in places they inhabit) it would
essentially be a "trustless local community infrastructure".

And that sounds to our ears like "hot ice cream" - it just doesn't seem
to make sense.

BUT:

I remember many open and fruitful discussions about distributed
ledgers during battlemesh events. In a sense, the mesh networking
community was working with "distributed ledgers" loooong before they
became cool, we call them "distributed routing protocols based on local
trust". The idea of adding a token scheme on top was not discussed very
often to my knowledge - so it seems like we just don't care.

SO:

Based on that view, I think that the narrative of community networks is
*NOT* really endangered by association with cryptoeconomic projects.
Most of these probably will probalby fade away as quickly as the ICO/VC
money came in - failing to produce that tasty hot ice cream.


cheers
-paul


PS: those rumors about our revolutionary funkfeuer tokens being hacked
are completely unsubstantial, if you claim otherwise I'll meet you in
court :D



On 16.11.18 18:53, panayotis antoniadis wrote:
> On 16.11.18 18:47, Benjamin Henrion wrote:
>> 
>> For me open source projects should start as open source. Later 
>> anything could happen, like the recent hack of Ammbr's currency, 
>> and plans for "openness" easily change.
>> 
>> 
>> Any link to that hack?
> 
> I have only some screenshots (attached) from the Ammbr's telegram 
> group.
> 
> 
> 
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