From pedro at cas.cat Wed Apr 1 12:57:37 2020 From: pedro at cas.cat (Pedro) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:57:37 +0200 Subject: [Battlemesh] bufferbloat fixed on the ath10k in openwrt head, finally In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <86dc56cb-9884-0798-05e9-e26b2e54c59e@cas.cat> Great job Dave :) I'm impressed that you did that given the restrictions to the source code (propietary) of ath10k, looks like a good story to listen/read. Is this a feature exclusive of the ath10k-ct driver? Works in generic ath10k? Cheers, Pedro -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 0x9D64597C3A982DCA.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 945 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 488 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From toke at toke.dk Wed Apr 1 15:23:08 2020 From: toke at toke.dk (Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?=) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 15:23:08 +0200 Subject: [Battlemesh] bufferbloat fixed on the ath10k in openwrt head, finally In-Reply-To: <86dc56cb-9884-0798-05e9-e26b2e54c59e@cas.cat> References:

<86dc56cb-9884-0798-05e9-e26b2e54c59e@cas.cat> Message-ID: <87a73vgx1f.fsf@toke.dk> Pedro writes: > Great job Dave :) > > I'm impressed that you did that given the restrictions to the source > code (propietary) of ath10k, looks like a good story to listen/read. Well it turns out you can throttle the device from the driver side and keep queueing in the firmware at a reasonable level. Similar to what BQL does for Ethernet cards (and indeed this is called AQL - Airtime Queue Limits). The credit for the idea and initial implementation goes to Kan Yan at Google :) > Is this a feature exclusive of the ath10k-ct driver? Works in generic > ath10k? It's all in mac80211 so it's fairly driver-agnostic. And in OpenWrt head the feature flag is turned on for both variants of the driver. -Toke From zoobab at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 18:25:09 2020 From: zoobab at gmail.com (Benjamin Henrion) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 18:25:09 +0200 Subject: [Battlemesh] FCC vote on 6ghz wifi Message-ID: FCC is about to vote on 6ghz wifi: https://twitter.com/wrash/status/1245862807465148416 https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynerash/2020/04/02/fcc-approval-expected-for-expanded-wifi-at-april-commission-meeting/#2a8b8c7e21a4 Beware of the telco lobby with LTE-U: "WiFi would not be the only unlicensed user of the 6 GHz band. Other services such as LTE offload for 5G phones would also use the band, as would medical equipment, IoT devices and even virtual reality and augmented reality devices." -- Benjamin Henrion (zoobab) Email: zoobab at gmail.com Mobile: +32-484-566109 Web: http://www.zoobab.com FFII.org Brussels "In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy. Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or democratically elected legislators." From zoobab at gmail.com Fri Apr 3 18:28:01 2020 From: zoobab at gmail.com (Benjamin Henrion) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 18:28:01 +0200 Subject: [Battlemesh] FCC vote on 6ghz wifi In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 6:25 PM Benjamin Henrion wrote: > > FCC is about to vote on 6ghz wifi: > > https://twitter.com/wrash/status/1245862807465148416 > https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynerash/2020/04/02/fcc-approval-expected-for-expanded-wifi-at-april-commission-meeting/#2a8b8c7e21a4 > > Beware of the telco lobby with LTE-U: > > "WiFi would not be the only unlicensed user of the 6 GHz band. Other > services such as LTE offload for 5G phones would also use the band, as > would medical equipment, IoT devices and even virtual reality and > augmented reality devices." Be ready for another technical monster: "Once the order takes effect, you’ll see two different kinds of devices that are allowed to operate in the 6 GHz spectrum. Regular power devices will be required to have an automated frequency coordination capability that will help prevent them from interfering with licensed services using the same radio frequencies. Low power devices, which are intended for indoor use in places such as offices and homes, will not need AFC. Low power devices will have access to the full 1200 MHz of the unlicensed 6 GHz band, while the regular power devices are excluded from some portions of the band. The AFC capability will require the devices to have geolocation, mostly using GPS, and an internet connection to the FCC’s universal licensing database." -- Benjamin Henrion (zoobab) Email: zoobab at gmail.com Mobile: +32-484-566109 Web: http://www.zoobab.com FFII.org Brussels "In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy. Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or democratically elected legislators." From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de Wed Apr 15 10:43:28 2020 From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 10:43:28 +0200 Subject: [Battlemesh] WiFi broadcast for search and rescue Message-ID: <20200415084328.GA17876@mi.fu-berlin.de> Hi, currently we are taking a look at wifibroadcast [1] for a search and rescue project [2]. We would like to test different hardware setups, e.g. other transceivers and antennas. If you have spare hardware, e.g. one/two of the listed WiFi adapters [3] or some sector or point to point antennas please let me know. If you have experience with packet injection and wifi drivers/firmwares please help us push the limits. Currently we "only" can transmit 20MBit/s in a rather nosy environment. Thank you for your help! Best Regards Philipp Borgers [1] https://befinitiv.wordpress.com/wifibroadcast-analog-like-transmission-of-live-video-data/wifibroadcast-fpv-manual-setup/ [2] https://www.hs-augsburg.de/searchwing/ [3] https://dronebridge.gitbook.io/docs/dronebridge-for-raspberry-pi/supported-hardware#wifi-adapters -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dave.taht at gmail.com Thu Apr 16 04:20:56 2020 From: dave.taht at gmail.com (Dave Taht) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 19:20:56 -0700 Subject: [Battlemesh] bufferbloat fixed on the ath10k in openwrt head, finally In-Reply-To: <86dc56cb-9884-0798-05e9-e26b2e54c59e@cas.cat> References:

<86dc56cb-9884-0798-05e9-e26b2e54c59e@cas.cat> Message-ID: it works in generic ath10k. I trust the ath10k-ct further, though, and that supports adhoc mode. On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 4:04 AM Pedro wrote: > > Great job Dave :) > > I'm impressed that you did that given the restrictions to the source > code (propietary) of ath10k, looks like a good story to listen/read. > > Is this a feature exclusive of the ath10k-ct driver? Works in generic > ath10k? > > Cheers, > Pedro > _______________________________________________ > Battlemesh mailing list > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh -- Make Music, Not War Dave Täht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729 From baptiste at bitsofnetworks.org Tue Apr 21 17:52:45 2020 From: baptiste at bitsofnetworks.org (Baptiste Jonglez) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:52:45 +0200 Subject: [Battlemesh] WBMv13 and COVID-19 In-Reply-To: <8bf76078-3b52-7ad8-77b4-d3c5f666362b@tnode.com> References: <3a176c47-76f5-5374-1c31-b5cb35c8853b@wwsnet.net> <612e13f9-72ad-b266-91fb-68c7753348da@tnode.com> <3b29cd16-5a38-0d18-81d0-5f31bdfe1b2e@ironai.com> <1015456c-6a56-f087-efde-6095932dd40d@tnode.com> <037760B8-F7D3-4181-B517-98637DABC89D@gmail.com> <0d092f06-97e6-8780-84cc-41f8b39d014e@ironai.com> <8bf76078-3b52-7ad8-77b4-d3c5f666362b@tnode.com> Message-ID: <20200421155245.GF235534@tuxmachine.localdomain> Hi, This sounds like something achievable with Big Blue Button, which is a self-hosted solution for video-conferencing. It was designed with teaching in mind: you can show slides, record meetings, take collaborative notes (Etherpad integration), and there are even "break-out" rooms for relaxing between sessions. Here is the website: https://bigbluebutton.org/ Documentation for installing: http://docs.bigbluebutton.org/2.2/install.html Design: http://docs.bigbluebutton.org/2.2/design.html Administration interface: http://docs.bigbluebutton.org/greenlight/gl-overview.html Overview video as a participant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYYnryIM0Uw Overview video as a presenter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2tG2SS4gXA I tested it recently: it's a bit heavy-weight and messy on the server-side (it needs 4-8 GB of RAM and a public IP address, and it's a bit fragile once you start to hack into it), but the new HTML5/webRTC client works really well. They run a demo instance with the GreenLight frontend: https://demo.bigbluebutton.org/gl/ You can also use my instance (only for testing) if you want: https://easybbb.polyno.me/ On this instance I installed a very simple frontend called "bbb-easy-join" [1] that makes it look like Jitsi Meet, you can create rooms and share the link to participants. But GreenLight looks nice for managing users, and there are also many integrations [2] and even an integration with Mattermost [3]. Baptiste [1] https://github.com/stadtulm/bbb-easy-join [2] https://bigbluebutton.org/integrations/ [3] https://github.com/blindsidenetworks/mattermost-plugin-bigbluebutton On 15-03-20, Mitar wrote: > Hi! > > This is maybe getting a bit off topic, but what I miss about those > solutions is that they are focusing only on presentations part of > conferences. That is OK, but great conferences have many more types of > events which are very useful in my experiences: random encounters, > hacking together, ad-hoc groups focusing on one thing, etc. How you make > those virtual? This is what I am thinking about. > > > Mitar > > > I think it is possible to manage multiple Webinars with Zoom. > > You can also manage the different events/talks with it. > > Zoom was designed with this purpose in mind. We'd just need the business plan > > with 10+ "rooms" which would cost us about 200€. > > Discord lacks many features like built-in recording. > > > > If you can build us a better (open-source) conference software > > based on WebRTC that'd be great. > > > > On 14.03.20 20:29, Jonathan Morton wrote: > >>> On 14 Mar, 2020, at 9:14 pm, Mitar wrote: > >>> > >>> Sorry, maybe the word "conference" here is overloaded here. What I think > >>> about is an event, where you have 100s of participants, maybe multiple > >>> tracks, rooms, side events, etc. So a tool to help organizing a virtual > >>> conference like that. Tools I have seen (Google Hangouts, Zoom) are > >>> generally made for a single virtual space, no? > >> > >> Discord. Just Discord. > >> > >> - Jonathan Morton > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Battlemesh mailing list > > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > > https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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<7636c642a9a58a456afac9ab41b60f0ea817504c.camel@mi.fu-berlin.de> <2c5d4d58-651e-2c60-12e0-c0f5144c3ac1@spc.org> <6c884cb2-ee15-ec3b-fdef-9f3e185b90fd@cas.cat> Message-ID: <20200421160135.GG235534@tuxmachine.localdomain> Ah, I missed this thread. As as said here: https://ml.ninux.org/pipermail/battlemesh/2020-April/012024.html I tried Bigbluebutton and it is indeed very robust, even with many people and with people with bad connection. It is not as intuitive as Jitsi Meet and not as "fun", but in my experience it worked a bit better. Also, about the "remote conference" use-case, apparently some people developed such a system based on BigBlueButton. Here are the links, I did not try any of it: http://mconf.org/ https://github.com/mconf/mconf-web https://elos.vc/site/en Baptiste On 27-03-20, Pedro wrote: > Thanks for sharing Lusy. Very interested in the numbers. How much people > can fit in a bigbluebutton meeting? > > So much people saying that is difficult to have more than 14 > participants with jitsi. Anyone succeeded? > > Very happy to see all this products adapting to webrtc. Last version of > openmeetigs.apache.org works with WebRTC too > > On 3/25/20 9:11 PM, James Stevens wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > I have been lurking for so long ! Hope you are all well.. > > > > Very interested in this thread as we face isolation but very active > > communities in need of something other than the zoom Jitsi skype hype. > > > > For small scale video chat I use https://chatb.org which is written by > > friend in Berlin Jan Gerber. It's fully peer to peer so each peer has > > to be able to deliver their own video image and sound. It's not what > > you are all looking for but I mention it as there is no login and it's > > great for 3 or 4 people. He is keen to develop it further - it's open > > source of course. https://r-w-x.org/hostb.git > > > > Going through the list of suggestions, has anyone spent any time with > > https://openmeetings.apache.org/ and is it a candidate you are > > considering? Looks good but have yet to try it. > > > > All round the world people are looking again at community networks > > with fresh eyes and appetite > > > > just saying! > > > > easy > > > > James > > > > On 25/03/2020 20:00, Lyudmila Vaseva wrote: > >> We now also use BigBlueButton at work, after our jitsi instance broke > >> with 15 ppl conference.. > >> > >> I personally find jitsi nicer and more intuitive usability-wise, but > >> bbb proved more stable and robust with more people participating. > >> It also gives the option to only listen in. > >> > >> As for the question how do you conduct a big remote meeting in a > >> constructive way: it's not easy, but doable with a bit of discipline. > >> You need an agenda, a facilitator, and for example the shared notes > >> (like an etherpad) provided by bbb where people who want to say > >> something write their names down and are then called to speak by the > >> facilitator. (And it helps when everyone not speaking has muted their > >> mic). > >> > >> I hope that was useful for someone xD > >> > >> Cheers > >> Lusy > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Battlemesh mailing list > >> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > >> https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > > -- > > James Stevens +447973318881 http://spc.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Battlemesh mailing list > > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > > https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > > _______________________________________________ > Battlemesh mailing list > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: not available URL: From dave.taht at gmail.com Tue Apr 21 18:11:53 2020 From: dave.taht at gmail.com (Dave Taht) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 09:11:53 -0700 Subject: [Battlemesh] teleconferencing systems In-Reply-To: <20200421160135.GG235534@tuxmachine.localdomain> References: <1d5434f2-53a8-a901-d0b7-4f0cb6b5eddd@cas.cat> <9b12af28-2ba1-0e71-f95c-22272fda0cef@tnode.com> <255755d3-3e5f-7542-c858-2f36e54f3ab8@jluehr.de>

<7636c642a9a58a456afac9ab41b60f0ea817504c.camel@mi.fu-berlin.de> <2c5d4d58-651e-2c60-12e0-c0f5144c3ac1@spc.org> <6c884cb2-ee15-ec3b-fdef-9f3e185b90fd@cas.cat> <20200421160135.GG235534@tuxmachine.localdomain> Message-ID: I have been fiddling with sylkserver and meetecho janus as well. Lots to like there. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:02 AM Baptiste Jonglez wrote: > > Ah, I missed this thread. As as said here: > > https://ml.ninux.org/pipermail/battlemesh/2020-April/012024.html > > I tried Bigbluebutton and it is indeed very robust, even with many people > and with people with bad connection. It is not as intuitive as Jitsi Meet > and not as "fun", but in my experience it worked a bit better. > > Also, about the "remote conference" use-case, apparently some people > developed such a system based on BigBlueButton. Here are the links, I did > not try any of it: > > http://mconf.org/ > https://github.com/mconf/mconf-web > https://elos.vc/site/en > > Baptiste > > On 27-03-20, Pedro wrote: > > Thanks for sharing Lusy. Very interested in the numbers. How much people > > can fit in a bigbluebutton meeting? > > > > So much people saying that is difficult to have more than 14 > > participants with jitsi. Anyone succeeded? > > > > Very happy to see all this products adapting to webrtc. Last version of > > openmeetigs.apache.org works with WebRTC too > > > > On 3/25/20 9:11 PM, James Stevens wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > I have been lurking for so long ! Hope you are all well.. > > > > > > Very interested in this thread as we face isolation but very active > > > communities in need of something other than the zoom Jitsi skype hype. > > > > > > For small scale video chat I use https://chatb.org which is written by > > > friend in Berlin Jan Gerber. It's fully peer to peer so each peer has > > > to be able to deliver their own video image and sound. It's not what > > > you are all looking for but I mention it as there is no login and it's > > > great for 3 or 4 people. He is keen to develop it further - it's open > > > source of course. https://r-w-x.org/hostb.git > > > > > > Going through the list of suggestions, has anyone spent any time with > > > https://openmeetings.apache.org/ and is it a candidate you are > > > considering? Looks good but have yet to try it. > > > > > > All round the world people are looking again at community networks > > > with fresh eyes and appetite > > > > > > just saying! > > > > > > easy > > > > > > James > > > > > > On 25/03/2020 20:00, Lyudmila Vaseva wrote: > > >> We now also use BigBlueButton at work, after our jitsi instance broke > > >> with 15 ppl conference.. > > >> > > >> I personally find jitsi nicer and more intuitive usability-wise, but > > >> bbb proved more stable and robust with more people participating. > > >> It also gives the option to only listen in. > > >> > > >> As for the question how do you conduct a big remote meeting in a > > >> constructive way: it's not easy, but doable with a bit of discipline. > > >> You need an agenda, a facilitator, and for example the shared notes > > >> (like an etherpad) provided by bbb where people who want to say > > >> something write their names down and are then called to speak by the > > >> facilitator. (And it helps when everyone not speaking has muted their > > >> mic). > > >> > > >> I hope that was useful for someone xD > > >> > > >> Cheers > > >> Lusy > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Battlemesh mailing list > > >> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > > >> https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > > > -- > > > James Stevens +447973318881 http://spc.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Battlemesh mailing list > > > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > > > https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Battlemesh mailing list > > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > > https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > > _______________________________________________ > Battlemesh mailing list > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh -- Make Music, Not War Dave Täht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729 From dave.taht at gmail.com Wed Apr 22 19:49:28 2020 From: dave.taht at gmail.com (Dave Taht) Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:49:28 -0700 Subject: [Battlemesh] Fwd: fcc vote on 6ghz thursday In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: related documents: ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 10:32 AM Subject: Re: fcc vote on 6ghz thursday To: Make-Wifi-fast H/T to james. First reading - ALL wifi 6ghz access points need to report their location to a centralized FCC database via a yet to be written "AFC" system. Hmmm... more: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-363490A1.pdf (linked from here: https://www.fcc.gov/document/promoting-unlicensed-use-6-ghz-band-0) Draft rules are in appendix A. They could have changed slightly between the agenda release on Apr 2, and the meeting/vote tomorrow. Final version will be published after the meeting tomorrow. Don't ask me how long that takes. For the very high level summary of the four operating modes, see III A, III B, IV A and IV B in the Table of Contents. III. Report and Order: A. Standard-Power Operations in U-NII-5 and U-NII-7 Bands B. Low-Power Indoor Operations Across the Entire 6 GHz Band IV. Further Proposed: A. Very Low Power Operation B. Higher Power Spectral Density for Low Power Indoor Operations https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-363490A1.pdf On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > I just wish I knew what was required for an open source maker of > outdoor capable APs had to do. So far I haven't found the draft > rules... > > It sounded to me that outdoor use required use of a gps and active > ongoing registration into some FCC database. > > https://www.fiercewireless.com/regulatory/fcc-sets-all-1-200-mhz-motion-for-6-ghz-unlicensed > > “We’re stoked about what the 6 GHz band can do,” he told Fierce. > “Imagine getting 2 Gbps on your phone, that’s something Wi-Fi 6E and 6 > GHz can accomplish,” as well as produce latency on the order of 2 > milliseconds or less, which is why it’s so attractive for things like > AR/VR." > > > > -- > Make Music, Not War > > Dave Täht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 -- Make Music, Not War Dave Täht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729 -- Make Music, Not War Dave Täht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729 From zoobab at gmail.com Thu Apr 23 09:43:10 2020 From: zoobab at gmail.com (Benjamin Henrion) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 09:43:10 +0200 Subject: [Battlemesh] Fwd: fcc vote on 6ghz thursday In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:50 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > related documents: > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Dave Taht > Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: fcc vote on 6ghz thursday > To: Make-Wifi-fast > > > H/T to james. First reading - ALL wifi 6ghz access points need to > report their location to a centralized FCC database > via a yet to be written "AFC" system. Hmmm... A technical horror museum. -- Benjamin Henrion (zoobab) Email: zoobab at gmail.com Mobile: +32-484-566109 Web: http://www.zoobab.com FFII.org Brussels "In July 2005, after several failed attempts to legalise software patents in Europe, the patent establishment changed its strategy. Instead of explicitly seeking to sanction the patentability of software, they are now seeking to create a central European patent court, which would establish and enforce patentability rules in their favor, without any possibility of correction by competing courts or democratically elected legislators." From pedro at cas.cat Sat Apr 25 16:00:18 2020 From: pedro at cas.cat (Pedro) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 16:00:18 +0200 Subject: [Battlemesh] teleconferencing systems In-Reply-To: References: <1d5434f2-53a8-a901-d0b7-4f0cb6b5eddd@cas.cat> <9b12af28-2ba1-0e71-f95c-22272fda0cef@tnode.com> <255755d3-3e5f-7542-c858-2f36e54f3ab8@jluehr.de>

<7636c642a9a58a456afac9ab41b60f0ea817504c.camel@mi.fu-berlin.de> <2c5d4d58-651e-2c60-12e0-c0f5144c3ac1@spc.org> <6c884cb2-ee15-ec3b-fdef-9f3e185b90fd@cas.cat> <20200421160135.GG235534@tuxmachine.localdomain> <578c7995-3e66-40a4-a32f-dc20f0c7aaa5@cas.cat> Message-ID: Wow that's great what ffmuc has done. We're also running a public jitsi meet server, but to be honest, even though it has good hardware and a strong 10G link, the quality and configuration has been a bit disappointing. Jitsi isnt the most straightforward to get all the components working. Any idea how ffmuc got it to scale so well? Poking around their wiki to see if they list some instructions for which knobs to tweak.. On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 10:00 AM Pedro wrote: > > Hey hey, and we should mention the fantastic work freifunk coomunity of > munich is doing to serve their locality > > few days ago, they reached 1k concurrent users with jitsi, mostly schools > > https://stats.ffmuc.net/d/VZoq4FjZk/meet-stats?orgId=1&refresh=1m&from=now-2d&to=now > > On 4/21/20 6:11 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > I have been fiddling with sylkserver and meetecho janus as well. Lots > > to like there. > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:02 AM Baptiste Jonglez > > wrote: > >> Ah, I missed this thread. As as said here: > >> > >> https://ml.ninux.org/pipermail/battlemesh/2020-April/012024.html > >> > >> I tried Bigbluebutton and it is indeed very robust, even with many people > >> and with people with bad connection. It is not as intuitive as Jitsi Meet > >> and not as "fun", but in my experience it worked a bit better. > >> > >> Also, about the "remote conference" use-case, apparently some people > >> developed such a system based on BigBlueButton. Here are the links, I did > >> not try any of it: > >> > >> http://mconf.org/ > >> https://github.com/mconf/mconf-web > >> https://elos.vc/site/en > >> > >> Baptiste > >> > >> On 27-03-20, Pedro wrote: > >>> Thanks for sharing Lusy. Very interested in the numbers. How much people > >>> can fit in a bigbluebutton meeting? > >>> > >>> So much people saying that is difficult to have more than 14 > >>> participants with jitsi. Anyone succeeded? > >>> > >>> Very happy to see all this products adapting to webrtc. Last version of > >>> openmeetigs.apache.org works with WebRTC too > >>> > >>> On 3/25/20 9:11 PM, James Stevens wrote: > >>>> Dear all, > >>>> > >>>> I have been lurking for so long ! Hope you are all well.. > >>>> > >>>> Very interested in this thread as we face isolation but very active > >>>> communities in need of something other than the zoom Jitsi skype hype. > >>>> > >>>> For small scale video chat I use https://chatb.org which is written by > >>>> friend in Berlin Jan Gerber. It's fully peer to peer so each peer has > >>>> to be able to deliver their own video image and sound. It's not what > >>>> you are all looking for but I mention it as there is no login and it's > >>>> great for 3 or 4 people. He is keen to develop it further - it's open > >>>> source of course. https://r-w-x.org/hostb.git > >>>> > >>>> Going through the list of suggestions, has anyone spent any time with > >>>> https://openmeetings.apache.org/ and is it a candidate you are > >>>> considering? Looks good but have yet to try it. > >>>> > >>>> All round the world people are looking again at community networks > >>>> with fresh eyes and appetite > >>>> > >>>> just saying! > >>>> > >>>> easy > >>>> > >>>> James > >>>> > >>>> On 25/03/2020 20:00, Lyudmila Vaseva wrote: > >>>>> We now also use BigBlueButton at work, after our jitsi instance broke > >>>>> with 15 ppl conference.. > >>>>> > >>>>> I personally find jitsi nicer and more intuitive usability-wise, but > >>>>> bbb proved more stable and robust with more people participating. > >>>>> It also gives the option to only listen in. > >>>>> > >>>>> As for the question how do you conduct a big remote meeting in a > >>>>> constructive way: it's not easy, but doable with a bit of discipline. > >>>>> You need an agenda, a facilitator, and for example the shared notes > >>>>> (like an etherpad) provided by bbb where people who want to say > >>>>> something write their names down and are then called to speak by the > >>>>> facilitator. (And it helps when everyone not speaking has muted their > >>>>> mic). > >>>>> > >>>>> I hope that was useful for someone xD > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers > >>>>> Lusy > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Battlemesh mailing list > >>>>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > >>>>> https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > >>>> -- > >>>> James Stevens +447973318881 http://spc.org > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Battlemesh mailing list > >>>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > >>>> https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Battlemesh mailing list > >>> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > >>> https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Battlemesh mailing list > >> Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > >> https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Battlemesh mailing list > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh -- Zach Giles zgiles at gmail.com From borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de Tue Apr 28 11:08:37 2020 From: borgers at mi.fu-berlin.de (Philipp Borgers) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:08:37 +0200 Subject: [Battlemesh] WiFi broadcast for search and rescue In-Reply-To: <20200415084328.GA17876@mi.fu-berlin.de> References: <20200415084328.GA17876@mi.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: <20200428090837.GA20619@mi.fu-berlin.de> Hi, we tested the code on ath9k based systems and it works quite fine. I created a openwrt package too. I'm currently looking for experience with mini pci (express) cards that support ath9k. Can someone recommend a card? Can you recommend one with high tx power > 1W? Is someone familiar with the Mikrotik cards? E.g. with: https://mikrotik.com/product/R11e-2HPnD Best Regards Philipp On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:43:28AM +0200, Philipp Borgers wrote: > Hi, > > currently we are taking a look at wifibroadcast [1] for a search and rescue > project [2]. > > We would like to test different hardware setups, e.g. other transceivers and > antennas. If you have spare hardware, e.g. one/two of the listed WiFi adapters > [3] or some sector or point to point antennas please let me know. > > If you have experience with packet injection and wifi drivers/firmwares please > help us push the limits. Currently we "only" can transmit 20MBit/s in a rather > nosy environment. > > Thank you for your help! > > Best Regards > Philipp Borgers > > [1] https://befinitiv.wordpress.com/wifibroadcast-analog-like-transmission-of-live-video-data/wifibroadcast-fpv-manual-setup/ > [2] https://www.hs-augsburg.de/searchwing/ > [3] https://dronebridge.gitbook.io/docs/dronebridge-for-raspberry-pi/supported-hardware#wifi-adapters > _______________________________________________ > Battlemesh mailing list > Battlemesh at ml.ninux.org > https://ml.ninux.org/mailman/listinfo/battlemesh -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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