<div dir="ltr"><div>Our understanding from looking at it, and talking with other mesh comms groups is that it was never really very capable. Once they got VC funding, it basically went internet-only for all practical purposes, is my (possibly mistaken) understanding. Happy for someone to jump in an correct me if I am wrong.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Paul.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 15:09, Paul Fuxjäger <<a href="mailto:paul.fuxjaeger@gmx.at">paul.fuxjaeger@gmx.at</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I remember talking to someone in 2015 who was on the firechat dev team:<br>
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According to that dev, the claim of it “being successfully used by protesters” was a PR gag :(<br>
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Which I don’t really mind if it makes everybody install it and thus increases node density. But it should then also provide the advertised functionality - which firechat seemed to have failed to do back then.<br>
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> On 03.09.2019, at 20:10, Mitar <<a href="mailto:mitar@tnode.com" target="_blank">mitar@tnode.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi!<br>
> <br>
> Reminds me of FireChat:<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireChat" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireChat</a><br>
> <br>
> It was used in 2014 Hong Kong protests. :-)<br>
> <br>
> But it is really hard to get any information about how secure those apps<br>
> really are.<br>
> <br>
> One open source I know about is:<br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.denovogroup.org/rangzen" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.denovogroup.org/rangzen</a><br>
> <br>
> More or less the same people also wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://www.usenix.org/conference/foci13/workshop-program/presentation/hasan" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.usenix.org/conference/foci13/workshop-program/presentation/hasan</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Mitar<br>
> <br>
>> <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2019/09/02/hong-kong-protestors-using-mesh-messaging-app-china-cant-block-usage-up-3685" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2019/09/02/hong-kong-protestors-using-mesh-messaging-app-china-cant-block-usage-up-3685</a><br>
>> <br>
>> Seems proprietary though, but the use case is interesting.<br>
>> <br>
> <br>
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