<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Be aware that the <a href="http://confine-project.eu">confine-project.eu</a> website is no longer the correct one.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Filipe</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Albert Rafetseder via Battlemesh <<a href="mailto:battlemesh@ml.ninux.org">battlemesh@ml.ninux.org</a>> escreveu no dia quinta, 9/11/2023 à(s) 21:02:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">If data on the tech/operational side of things is on your wishlist as <br>
well, check the work by the wonderful people at Freifunk & Gluon who <br>
collect "census" data big time:<br>
<br>
Sources: <a href="https://github.com/freifunk-gluon/census-exporter" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/freifunk-gluon/census-exporter</a><br>
(I don't link to the live Grafana to spare them a DDoS ;-)<br>
<br>
Inside the repo, communities.json has the per-community data source <br>
URLs, and I'm pretty sure they have something documented about GDPR and <br>
privacy issues of this type of data collection somewhere.<br>
<br>
Maybe it's time to start a pad for collecting resources already?<br>
<br>
Am 09.11.2023 21:04, schrieb Albert Rafetseder via Battlemesh:<br>
> Hi Rory,<br>
> <br>
> Re: your (2), I'd need to ask the elders for details -- or maybe they<br>
> are still on this list anyway :-) --, but I remember the EU-funded<br>
> CONFINE project put considerable effort into modeling (and also<br>
> measuring and documenting) networks. Here's what a quick web search<br>
> found me:<br>
> <br>
> Project overview: <a href="https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/288535/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/288535/</a><br>
> Papers and datasets: <a href="https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/288535/results" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/288535/results</a><br>
> <br>
> The CommonNodeDB code base is still floating around as well, e.g.:<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/FunkFeuer/common-node-db" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/FunkFeuer/common-node-db</a><br>
> <br>
> Re: your (1), IMHO it's fine to keep messages coming through this list.<br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Albert.<br>
> <br>
> Am 09.11.2023 20:44, schrieb Mitar via Battlemesh:<br>
>> Hi!<br>
>> <br>
>> There is:<br>
>> <br>
>> <a href="https://interop.wlan-si.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://interop.wlan-si.net/</a><br>
>> <br>
>> It is still operational and feel free to continue to use it.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Mitar<br>
>> <br>
>>> Dear Battlemesh friends,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I write to solicit feedback about a project I am starting which will <br>
>>> gather together a repository of mesh projects, activities, and people <br>
>>> into an open access database. I'm conceiving of this as two <br>
>>> subprojects.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> – Subproject 1: A database in some form, operated in a <br>
>>> "crowd-sourced" mode in which everyone is welcome to submit entries <br>
>>> for themselves or others, and I (working with a research assistant) <br>
>>> will moderate to ensure some consistent quality of information in <br>
>>> accordance with guidelines that I'd like to establish with feedback <br>
>>> from this community. I can commit to hosting this, but I would be <br>
>>> open to moving hosting to community-supported infrastructure if such <br>
>>> a thing were possible. I will maintain the database in an open access <br>
>>> mode online for anyone to use for any project.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> – As an example of one such usage, I am also working on Subproject 2: <br>
>>> a data visualization that I am developing for release in concert with <br>
>>> a book on mesh that I hope to have published within the next 2-3 <br>
>>> years. The data visualization would draw selectively from the <br>
>>> database to present certain entries in relation to concepts from my <br>
>>> book. This would be a personal project, not subject to oversight from <br>
>>> the community, although I would certainly warmly welcome any feedback <br>
>>> and comments. I would invite (and even to a degree support) other <br>
>>> folks working on similar such projects that would draw from the <br>
>>> database.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> So far we are just collecting everything in a spreadsheet, and trying <br>
>>> to think about what kind of taxonomy / data model would be most <br>
>>> appropriate for representing all of these examples. We're collecting <br>
>>> everything from community network projects, to protocols and other <br>
>>> software, as well as hardware projects, and even individual people.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I present this here with 3 questions at the moment:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> (1) Is this an appropriate forum for me to communicate with you all <br>
>>> about this? I'm not sure how active this mailing list is anymore and <br>
>>> whether there may be many more folks in the community now who are not <br>
>>> on this list. As I mentioned, I write to solicit feedback about any <br>
>>> of the above, and at some point would even like to host a workshop or <br>
>>> discussion where others might offer comments about things like: <br>
>>> procedures, data models, appropriate technologies for hosting, data & <br>
>>> privacy, or any other concerns. I saw that there was some mention of <br>
>>> this at WBMv15 (<a href="https://pad.cas.cat/WBMv15" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pad.cas.cat/WBMv15</a> – thanks, Paul!). Perhaps <br>
>>> we could host such a conversation at a future Battlemesh, though I <br>
>>> plan to complete much work on this before then.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> (2) Is anyone aware of prior work that partly or fully achieves <br>
>>> similar goals?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> (3) Would anyone like to be involved either by contributing <br>
>>> information & entries, or in some other capacity? As I've described, <br>
>>> for me this is a mix of a community and a personal project, but I do <br>
>>> hope that the community component can genuinely be so: a product of <br>
>>> collective endeavor from Battlemesh folks, and mesh network <br>
>>> enthusiasts more widely.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thank you kindly for reading and I look forward to any comments!<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Kind regards,<br>
>>> Rory<br>
>>> <br>
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