[ham-ninux] mi sono fatto una ICOM ID-31E

Mon Apr 28 18:31:20 CEST 2014

http://hamgear.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/dmr-primer.pdf


2014-04-28 17:54 GMT+02:00 Pierluigi Checchi <p.checchi at ieee.org>:

> DMR is the two-timeslot TDMA standard using a whole 12.5kHz channel 50%
> (e.g.MotoTRBO) and Tier 1 is for licence free digital PMR446.
> dPMR/NXDN is the 100% duty cycle FDMA standard (e.g. Icom IDAS) where dPMR
> is 6.25 and NXDN is either 12.5 or 6.25
>
> DMR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_mobile_radio
> dPMR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DPMR
> NXDN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NXDN
>
> Yaesu is “12.5 kHz C4FM/FDMA” then that suggests it’s NXDN.
>
> REPLY
> Hans
> It isn’t that simple anymore. While technically correct, Wikipedia is not
> up-to-date. There are now many DMR products which do not support 2 time
> slots, but aren’t compatible with dPMR either (other vocoder).
>
> Best known examples are the Kirisun hand helds and the Hora mobiles.
>
>
> 2014-04-28 14:56 GMT+02:00 Alessandro (aka ArkaNet) <arkantiko at gmail.com>:
>
> A sto punto andiamo di cs700 ... anche se da un lato sono affascinato dal
>> gps dell' ICOM
>>
>> --
>> Arka
>> Il 28/apr/2014 14:46 "Pierluigi Checchi" <p.checchi at ieee.org> ha scritto:
>>
>> Il display è inutile in questi apparati, che comunque hanno una usabilità
>>> bassissima... Una volta programmati i canali sei a posto.
>>> Direi che l'unico a buon prezzo è questo cs700, altrimenti bisogna
>>> andare sugli hytera o attendere qualcosa di meglio
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-04-28 12:14 GMT+02:00 Alessandro (aka ArkaNet) <arkantiko at gmail.com
>>> >:
>>>
>>>> Altro compatibile è il CS700
>>>> http://www.funkhandel.com/Connect-Systems-CS700-DMR-Handfunkgeraet
>>>>
>>>> ma col display monoriga, ci fai una fava ... manco!
>>>>
>>>> *--
>>>> Arka*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno 28 aprile 2014 09:02, Saverio Proto <zioproto at gmail.com> ha
>>>> scritto:
>>>>
>>>>  Minkia quanto costa:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Kirisun-DP770-radio-compatable-Hytera/dp/B00JBMWTN4
>>>>>
>>>>> ha fatto bene Alessio a prendere il D-Star :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Saverio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 28 aprile 2014 01:15, Alessandro (aka ArkaNet)
>>>>> <arkantiko at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>> > Opppss .. preso granchio :D
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Quello compatibile è il Kirisun DP770
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Arka
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Il giorno 28 aprile 2014 00:57, Alessandro (aka ArkaNet)
>>>>> > <arkantiko at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Non so ... poi alla fine io cerco sempre il prodotto con
>>>>> coefficiente
>>>>> >> prezzo/qualità/comodità nei limiti del "piacevole"
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Stando a vedere le certificazioni, però, sembra conforme
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> http://dmrassociation.org/dmr-equipment-manufacturers-product-showcase/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> http://dmrassociation.org/2013/03/08/january-2013-hytera-and-kirisun-tier-ii/
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Che dire ....
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> Arka
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Il giorno 27 aprile 2014 23:55, Saverio Proto <zioproto at gmail.com>
>>>>> ha
>>>>> >> scritto:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Arka, occhio mi pare di capire che la Kirisun non supporta i
>>>>> >>> ripetitori DMR. Usando solo il Tier1 non ho capito se si possono
>>>>> usare
>>>>> >>> i ripetitori.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> http://www.grapevinehamradio.com/2013/12/radio-review-kirisun-s780-digital-ht/
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Saverio
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Il 26 aprile 2014 20:36, Alessandro (aka ArkaNet)
>>>>> >>> <arkantiko at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>> >>> > Complimenti Ale!
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Certo che a quel prezzo ne varrebbe comunque la pena!!
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Io vorrei farmi questo [*] che non è D-Star, ma DMR compatibile
>>>>> >>> > MOTOTBRO
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > E ci sono funzioni veramente 'inaspettate' (ovviamente non
>>>>> legali nel
>>>>> >>> > campo
>>>>> >>> > HAM) ma "fighe"
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > [*]
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> http://www.ebay.it/itm/UK-Stock-KIRISUN-S780-400-470MHZ-Digital-2-way-ham-radio-UHF-400-470Mhz-4W-/301139976916?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones_Communication_Ham_Radio_Receivers_Transceivers&hash=item461d5762d4&_uhb=1
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > --
>>>>> >>> > Arka
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Il giorno 26 aprile 2014 20:22, Saverio Proto <
>>>>> zioproto at gmail.com> ha
>>>>> >>> > scritto:
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >> Minkia il prezzo è ottimo !!! Mi stai tentando quasi quasi la
>>>>> compro
>>>>> >>> >> anche
>>>>> >>> >> io !!
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Saverio
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Il 26 aprile 2014 19:13, Alessio <nolith at abisso.org> ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>> >>> >> > Alla fine volevo provare un modo digitale, il D-Star non è
>>>>> che mi
>>>>> >>> >> > entusiasmasse molto perché hanno fatto un fiore (standard
>>>>> open) e ci
>>>>> >>> >> > hanno cagato sopra (coded proprietario per l'audio).
>>>>> >>> >> > Però è ben diffuso e ci sono un sacco di progetti opensource
>>>>> che ci
>>>>> >>> >> > ruotano attorno.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Insomma, alla fine mi sono trovato la radio in offerta [1] e
>>>>> non ho
>>>>> >>> >> > saputo resistere.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Il baofeng è imbattibile per il suo prezzo, ma l'ID-31E è
>>>>> tutta
>>>>> >>> >> > un'altra storia.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > Premetto che a prezzo pieno non me la sarei mai comprata.
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> > [1]
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >> >
>>>>> http://www.mediaglobe.it/shop/icom-ide31-portatile-dstar-integrati-p-4310.html
>>>>> >>> >> > --
>>>>> >>> >> > Sent with my mu4e
>>>>> >>> >> >
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