[Ninux-Wireless] Fwd: Re: [IS4CWN] Inquiries about ticket price from ninux.org
Saverio Proto
zioproto a gmail.com
Mer 19 Giu 2013 20:01:23 CEST
Hello all,
please forward my email to the proper people, and proper mailing lists.
there is a big talking in the past 3 weeks about the wireless summit at the
C-Base in the beginning of October.
the big talking is about the ticket for entering at the event, that shocked
most of the foreigners that attended previous events at C-Base.
I have been around the C-Base for several years now, and I attended many
wireless events. In all of them we had meals, and all the people were
really participating. People doing videos, streaming, doing talks. People
freely donated money when arriving, to make everything possible. The recent
Wireless Community Weekend 2013 is a perfect example of that.
In my opinion an event where you have to pay a ticket to get inside is not
representative of this community.
Anyone should be able to get in without paying the ticket and see what we
have to say.
I have a good job and I can afford both travelling and entrance ticket. But
how I can invite a lot of young students, if we put such barriers ? I dont
feel comfortable inviting young people. Wireless community is not a job for
them , is something they do as activists.
What are these EU projects sponsoring if we need to make people pay a
ticket to get in ? What are the sponsors for ?
And morover, event the CCC congress and camping have cheaper tickets !
Because of this, my idea at the moment is NOT to participate. I will be at
the C-Base again for wireless community weekend 2014.
Wireless community is grassroots, it is NOT business. I have the feeling
that the New America Foundation has a "business approach" that does not
match well with the European way of developing wireless community networks.
ciao,
Saverio - Ninux.org
2013/6/19 Nemesis <nemesis a ninux.org>
> Ho fatto delle domande. Se iniziate a leggere dal fondo trovate tutte le
> risposte in ordine cronologico.
>
> Riassumendo, i punti salienti sono:
>
> *"**we are recently working on a solution - not just for NINUX but for
> all WCN activists who are willing to join IS4CWN in Berlin.**"**
>
> e
>
> **"**Registration includes breakfast and lunch on each of the main Summit
> days and we also try to do 1-2 social evenings where we cover as much of
> those costs as well"
> *
> Federico
>
>
> -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto: Re: [IS4CWN] CWN-Summit
> Digest, Vol 90, Issue 2 Data: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:07:58 -0400 Mittente: Sascha
> Meinrath <meinrath a newamerica.net> <meinrath a newamerica.net> Rispondi-a: International
> Summit for Community Wireless Networks Participant E-mail List
> <cwn-summit a lists.chambana.net> <cwn-summit a lists.chambana.net> A:
> cwn-summit a lists.chambana.net CC: cwn-summit-request a lists.chambana.net
>
> Hi Roger (et al.),
>
> Since 2004, the Summit has never turned away anyone for inability to pay -- this
> has always been a hallmark of the International Summit for Community Wireless
> Networks. We do, of course, welcome volunteers and other barter arrangements,
> but don't turn people away who would be unable to afford the registration costs.
> Registration includes breakfast and lunch on each of the main Summit days and
> we also try to do 1-2 social evenings where we cover as much of those costs as
> well.
>
> --Sascha
>
> On 06/19/2013 08:00 AM, cwn-summit-request a lists.chambana.net wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:59:21 +0200 From: Roger Baig Vi?as
> > <roger.baig a guifi.net> <roger.baig a guifi.net> To: cwn-summit a lists.chambana.net Subject: Re: [IS4CWN]
> > Inquiries about ticket price from ninux.org Message-ID:
> > <51C164D9.1040102 a guifi.net> <51C164D9.1040102 a guifi.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Dear
> > organisers, I suggest that you consider (again[*]) the option of offering an
> > alternative for those who cannot afford the ticket letting the to "pay" with
> > work. There are many activities where these "volunteers" can help: video
> > streaming, attending the chat, being at the registry desk, etc. AFAIK this is
> > quite common in CNs' events and from our (guifi.net) experience I can tell you
> > that usually the work done by them is much worth than the cost of the fee they
> > save (and they know that, but it is ok for them because there are other things
> > they value like the interaction with the organisation and the attendees, etc.).
> > [*] In IS4CWN 2012 all the video recording and streaming was this way. It was
> > something that was arranged a bit unofficially and on-demand, but I recommend
> > this time to formalise it making a public announcement. Regards. On 06/18/2013
> > 10:40 PM, Danielle Kehl wrote:
> >> > Hi Federico,
> >> >
> >> > As Juergen said, we are aware of the issue and discussing it right now.
> >> > The ticket price does include a number of meals and social events that
> >> > take place during the Wireless Summit. The registration fees help us to
> >> > cover some of the conference costs, including the venue and catering.
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> > Danielle
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Juergen Neumann <j.neumann a junes.eu
> > <j.neumann a junes.eu>> > <mailto:j.neumann a junes.eu> <j.neumann a junes.eu>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Federico,
> >> > I sent an email to Saverio this morning. Due to my recent trip to NY
> >> > there was some delay in taking care of this. I have contacted OTI
> >> > before I left Berlin and we are recently working on a solution - not
> >> > just for NINUX but for all WCN activists who are willing to join
> >> > IS4CWN in Berlin.
> >> > Greets
> >> > JuergeN
> >> > Nemesis <nemesis a ninux.org <mailto:nemesis a ninux.org> <nemesis a ninux.org>> schrieb:
> >> > Many people in the community of http://ninux.org ninux.org
> >> > <http://ninux.org> <http://ninux.org>
> >> > are interested in coming to
> >> > the IS4CWN in Berlin, but many have complained about the lack in
> >> > trasnparency of the ticket price, they find 100? expensivefor a
> >> > community event, yet when I told them the price should comprises food,
> >> > they showed interest, yet they would like a definitive answer.
> >> > Some people of ninux tried to contact the people of CBASE without
> >> > success.
> >> > Are you aware of the issue?
> >> > Federico
> >> > CWN-Summit mailing list
> >> > CWN-Summit a lists.chambana.net <mailto:CWN-Summit a lists.chambana.net> <CWN-Summit a lists.chambana.net>
> >> > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/cwn-summit
> >> > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/cwn-summit
> >> > http://www.wirelesssummit.org http://www.wirelesssummit.org
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > CWN-Summit mailing list
> >> > CWN-Summit a lists.chambana.net <mailto:CWN-Summit a lists.chambana.net> <CWN-Summit a lists.chambana.net>
> >> > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/cwn-summit
> >> > http://www.wirelesssummit.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Danielle Kehl
> >> > Policy Program Associate, Open Technology Institute
> >> > New America Foundation
> >> > Phone: (202) 596-3601 <tel:%28202%29%20596-3601>
> >> > Skype: daniellekehl
> >> > Twitter: @kehldanielle
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > CWN-Summit mailing list
> >> > CWN-Summit a lists.chambana.net
> >> > https://lists.chambana.net/mailman/listinfo/cwn-summit
> >> > http://www.wirelesssummit.org
> >> >
> > -- Roger Baig Vi?as Fundaci? Privada per a la Xarxa Oberta, Lliure i Neutral
> > guifi.net
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