[Battlemesh] Just another great battlemesh (was Re: No results again)

[Nemesis]

Hi Pedro,

On 05/09/2016 07:57 PM, guifipedro wrote:
>     Let me also ask you Simon, who is being expelled by whom and how?
> 
> 
> [I'm using your responses, but I'm not responding you only]
> 
> I enjoy battlemesh. But I regret a lot this kind of actitude based on a
> strong meritocracy relationship: "look how clever I am", "my idea is
> better than yours", "look what I'm able to do", "this guy did nothing",
> "this guy did a lot". And this is something I can attribute to: wibed,
> non-wibed and unaffiliated people. I can confirm that you are clever
> guys, but do not believe so much.
> 
> We had GREAT time, I'm sure everyone discovered something new. But then,
> after the battlemesh, people ask you, what you did? you got something?
> And instead of saying "it's difficult to say, you should come next time,
> so much people, discussions, ideas" some people say: "we had no results".
> 
> The GOAL of the WirelessBattleMesh events is to set-up hands-on testbed
> for each available mesh routing protocol with a standard test procedure
> for the different mesh networks. During the different WBM events,
> similar hardware and software configuration will be used based on the
> OpenWRT BoardSupportPackage and packages for each protocol
> implementation. The WBM events are also a great opportunity to develop
> testing tools for PHY/MAC radio layers (drivers, scripts and PHY analyzers).
> 
> Can someone say if we failed with the GOAL? We tried and we learned all
> of us.
> And we did MORE than that: generating a community, talks, exchange of
> ideas, discussions, etc.
> 
> Now I share two sentences inspired from the discussion about the testbed
> in battlemesh:
> - Do not try to be perfect. push complex things to next year. Finish
> iteration.
> - This is not a battle, it's more a proof of what works in reality. and
> helps developers to go on a direction. Relax.
> 
> The required effort of the testbed is HUGE.
> Using a professional tool as wibed, even more.
> Using too much routers for the testbed, even more.
> 
> Being ambitious for the glory of the battle about the process and
> results: EVEN MORE (and here appear burnouts and expellings)
> There were past great years in battlemesh (but I only saw this last
> frustrating two).
> I think it's ok to have different testbeds, different results. And one
> documentation trying to explain them as a newspaper with different
> articles. Why not?
> Do not hesitate, we will put font size according to the expertise of the
> group. Or some other traps.
> And please, some trophies for this people that need to win constantly in
> life.
> 
> Anyway, for people that is observing this, I can say that going to
> battlemesh worth it. But not reading this kind of emails. Wringing pain
> of a situation where nobody is confortable, and trying to play between
> winners and loosers.

Oh come on, now I'm getting tired of this.

Yeah everything is GREAT, let's hide the issues under the carpet!

Never mind the stressful time, people not listening one another, blaming
failure on lack of participation when we had 10 to 15 people involved
for 6 days, volunteers giving up because they couldn't get anything working.

I am very relaxed and open for criticism and discussion. It's somebody
else here who is taking it personal and getting hyper-defensive.

I think this battlemesh had a great organization and was excellent under
every aspect, but honestly, I did not have a great time watching people
argue and not listening to each other while I was trying to mediate, get
people to work on something. Do you know how many times people tried
running experiments and went crazy when nodes when not becoming ready? I
couldn't help them, it was frustrating. And I have to shut up and say
nothing otherwise you get offended?

Sorry I'm not goint to do this. You will have to accept it, Pedro.

We are just trying to improve things, but hell no, we are bad people
because we discuss, point out issues, EXPEL PEOPLE! Come on! Who is
expelling who? You are really over-exaggerating right now with this story.

Federico