[Battlemesh] WBM V6 Ibiza & Formentera
Mitar
mitar at tnode.com
Wed May 2 12:46:42 CEST 2012
Hi!
I think we started all this on the wrong foot. What it matters if there
is or is not a community networks, what exactly is the spirit and so on
... what matters is that somebody wants to organize and make an effort
and we should welcome this. So please do not use arguments "this is
right for Battlemesh and this is not". Thing are not black and white. We
are lucky that we have multiple locations to have Battlemesh next year
and it is crazy to argue which one is "right".
I would suggest that we simply analyze both (or all) possibilities and
then simply community votes. We as all decide and this is it. No
"reasons", no "arguments what is more in spirit what is not". Everybody
decides for him/herself if this or that location is in his/her opinion
suitable for Battlemesh, and more than the other location.
I would propose then to use this site for voting:
http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/
Everybody can rank possible locations in preference order and we will
see what community things is the best location for next event. And for
next event after that ... this is then another story ...
But before start voting, we should learn more about locations, what are
their advantages, what are their disadvantages and discussion should be
open so that we can think about different reasons to prefer one or another.
Mitar
> The veiled discussion here is:
>
> Organizing an event where there are existing community networks *VS
> *Organize an event where there are not community networks yet to promote
> the creation of community networks
>
> From what I understood, BattleMesh has been always organized by existing
> community networks to meetup, share, compare the work done by each group
> and eventually collaborate. The main feature was the fact that some
> existing community hosted the event and many here would like it to stay
> that way.
>
> In Michel's case, he wants to organize an event in a place where (from
> what I've understood, correct me if i'm wrong) there's no real community
> network yet and this would probably promote our model there.
>
> Personally I think that an event to promote community networks in the
> balearic islands would be great, I lived there 3 years, I know Ibiza
> quite well and I could ask around if there's a way to get help in
> organizing such an event.
> What I'm not sure though, is if it makes sense to bring there the
> "BattleMesh" format, because hardly anyone living there would be able to
> understand what we would be talking about during most part of the event!
> In my opinion it would make more sense to organize a new kind of event
> with a different format and name, which would be aimed at promoting
> community neworks, using a language that anybody would be able to
> understand, focused on some talks and demonstrations.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> *Federico Capoano*
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> Il 02/05/2012 11.21, Michel de Geofroy ha scritto:
>> Roger is this what you are referring to ?
>>
>> http://battlemesh.org/SpiritOfTheEvent
>>
>> "Battelemesh is an annual gathering where a number of mesh and
>> community networking enthusiasts meet in order to test and compare
>> their mesh routing protocols and related technologies. The event is
>> technical and social -- building actual working networks, meeting
>> people and having fun are our main priorities.
>> As the Battlemesh's attendance has grown in recent years, we have been
>> reserving a small number of slots for short talks. However, we intend
>> Battlemesh to remain a technical event self-organized by its
>> participants, rather than a conference, and the number of available
>> slots is severely limited."
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig at gmail.com
>> <mailto:roger.baig at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2 May 2012 01:29, Michel de Geofroy <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com
>> <mailto:micheldegeofroy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > Hi All is this http://battlemesh.org/org_framework still
>> relevant or needs
>> > some updating ?
>>
>> It should still be relevant (this is what it was meant for) and of
>> course it can be updated by just doing it and commenting it in this
>> list.
>>
>> The spirit was well defined during de v5 in a proposal circulated in
>> this list. I think that text could already be uploaded in the website.
>>
>> >
>> > Formentera has some real advantages as it is really a nice place
>> bla bla bla
>> > but we have no university or big city with lots of qualified
>> people like I
>> > met in Paris at the Black Box. Wifi here is more about rural out
>> reach so
>> > kids can do their homework without having to get a 3G wifi modem
>> and 45 Euro
>> > a month 10MB shitty telephonica/movistar deal . As Saverio noted
>> there is
>> > nothing like the AWMN or Guifi here yet but I am working on it
>> and I do hope
>> > that the presence of 60+ wifi nerds will inspire more people
>> locally.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Nefeli Kousi
>> <dit.eagle at gmail.com <mailto:dit.eagle at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> About Denmark i think we should ask the ones who proposed this
>> idea for
>> >> more information. Throughout the last conversation (in Greece)
>> there were
>> >> many good points about it and i would like to see them all in a
>> more
>> >> concrete and organised proposal.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> About the spirit of the event I think we need to here the
>> "definition"
>> >> from the ones who started it so the newies such as myself can
>> understand it
>> >> better. What is the original culture and goal? How relevant is
>> it to the
>> >> event now?
>> >>
>> >> Lastly about the new location for WBM I think we need to define
>> what our
>> >> priorities and out minimum needs are.
>> >>
>> >> We need a venue for sure , a low cost place to sleep,
>> transportation from
>> >> the airport to be availiable etc. And, most importantly, we
>> need a team to
>> >> feel responsible to organise it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What about the priorities?
>> >> Is our priority to have crazy wirelless projects? Is our
>> priority to have
>> >> fun? Is our priority to get bonded as a team? Is our
>> priority to be cost
>> >> effective? Is our priority to get some results out of the WBMv6?
>> >>
>> >> There are many nice ideas and many wonderfull places around the
>> world.
>> >> But, in my opinion, we need to set what we are looking for.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:46 AM, ZioPRoTo (Saverio Proto)
>> >> <zioproto at gmail.com <mailto:zioproto at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I think he meant Denmark.
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> yes I meant Denmark !
>> >>>
>> >>> Saverio
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