[Battlemesh] WBM V6 Ibiza & Formentera
Gioacchino Mazzurco
gmazzurco89 at gmail.com
Wed May 2 13:00:09 CEST 2012
+1 this time for stronzo ;)
On 05/02/12 12:46, Mitar wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I think we started all this on the wrong foot. What it matters if there
> is or is not a community networks, what exactly is the spirit and so on
> ... what matters is that somebody wants to organize and make an effort
> and we should welcome this. So please do not use arguments "this is
> right for Battlemesh and this is not". Thing are not black and white. We
> are lucky that we have multiple locations to have Battlemesh next year
> and it is crazy to argue which one is "right".
>
> I would suggest that we simply analyze both (or all) possibilities and
> then simply community votes. We as all decide and this is it. No
> "reasons", no "arguments what is more in spirit what is not". Everybody
> decides for him/herself if this or that location is in his/her opinion
> suitable for Battlemesh, and more than the other location.
>
> I would propose then to use this site for voting:
>
> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/
>
> Everybody can rank possible locations in preference order and we will
> see what community things is the best location for next event. And for
> next event after that ... this is then another story ...
>
> But before start voting, we should learn more about locations, what are
> their advantages, what are their disadvantages and discussion should be
> open so that we can think about different reasons to prefer one or another.
>
>
> Mitar
>
>> The veiled discussion here is:
>>
>> Organizing an event where there are existing community networks *VS
>> *Organize an event where there are not community networks yet to promote
>> the creation of community networks
>>
>> From what I understood, BattleMesh has been always organized by existing
>> community networks to meetup, share, compare the work done by each group
>> and eventually collaborate. The main feature was the fact that some
>> existing community hosted the event and many here would like it to stay
>> that way.
>>
>> In Michel's case, he wants to organize an event in a place where (from
>> what I've understood, correct me if i'm wrong) there's no real community
>> network yet and this would probably promote our model there.
>>
>> Personally I think that an event to promote community networks in the
>> balearic islands would be great, I lived there 3 years, I know Ibiza
>> quite well and I could ask around if there's a way to get help in
>> organizing such an event.
>> What I'm not sure though, is if it makes sense to bring there the
>> "BattleMesh" format, because hardly anyone living there would be able to
>> understand what we would be talking about during most part of the event!
>> In my opinion it would make more sense to organize a new kind of event
>> with a different format and name, which would be aimed at promoting
>> community neworks, using a language that anybody would be able to
>> understand, focused on some talks and demonstrations.
>>
>> My 2 cents
>>
>> *Federico Capoano*
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>>
>>
>> Il 02/05/2012 11.21, Michel de Geofroy ha scritto:
>>> Roger is this what you are referring to ?
>>>
>>> http://battlemesh.org/SpiritOfTheEvent
>>>
>>> "Battelemesh is an annual gathering where a number of mesh and
>>> community networking enthusiasts meet in order to test and compare
>>> their mesh routing protocols and related technologies. The event is
>>> technical and social -- building actual working networks, meeting
>>> people and having fun are our main priorities.
>>> As the Battlemesh's attendance has grown in recent years, we have been
>>> reserving a small number of slots for short talks. However, we intend
>>> Battlemesh to remain a technical event self-organized by its
>>> participants, rather than a conference, and the number of available
>>> slots is severely limited."
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:roger.baig at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 2 May 2012 01:29, Michel de Geofroy <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:micheldegeofroy at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > Hi All is this http://battlemesh.org/org_framework still
>>> relevant or needs
>>> > some updating ?
>>>
>>> It should still be relevant (this is what it was meant for) and of
>>> course it can be updated by just doing it and commenting it in this
>>> list.
>>>
>>> The spirit was well defined during de v5 in a proposal circulated in
>>> this list. I think that text could already be uploaded in the website.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Formentera has some real advantages as it is really a nice place
>>> bla bla bla
>>> > but we have no university or big city with lots of qualified
>>> people like I
>>> > met in Paris at the Black Box. Wifi here is more about rural out
>>> reach so
>>> > kids can do their homework without having to get a 3G wifi modem
>>> and 45 Euro
>>> > a month 10MB shitty telephonica/movistar deal . As Saverio noted
>>> there is
>>> > nothing like the AWMN or Guifi here yet but I am working on it
>>> and I do hope
>>> > that the presence of 60+ wifi nerds will inspire more people
>>> locally.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Nefeli Kousi
>>> <dit.eagle at gmail.com <mailto:dit.eagle at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> About Denmark i think we should ask the ones who proposed this
>>> idea for
>>> >> more information. Throughout the last conversation (in Greece)
>>> there were
>>> >> many good points about it and i would like to see them all in a
>>> more
>>> >> concrete and organised proposal.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> About the spirit of the event I think we need to here the
>>> "definition"
>>> >> from the ones who started it so the newies such as myself can
>>> understand it
>>> >> better. What is the original culture and goal? How relevant is
>>> it to the
>>> >> event now?
>>> >>
>>> >> Lastly about the new location for WBM I think we need to define
>>> what our
>>> >> priorities and out minimum needs are.
>>> >>
>>> >> We need a venue for sure , a low cost place to sleep,
>>> transportation from
>>> >> the airport to be availiable etc. And, most importantly, we
>>> need a team to
>>> >> feel responsible to organise it.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> What about the priorities?
>>> >> Is our priority to have crazy wirelless projects? Is our
>>> priority to have
>>> >> fun? Is our priority to get bonded as a team? Is our
>>> priority to be cost
>>> >> effective? Is our priority to get some results out of the WBMv6?
>>> >>
>>> >> There are many nice ideas and many wonderfull places around the
>>> world.
>>> >> But, in my opinion, we need to set what we are looking for.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:46 AM, ZioPRoTo (Saverio Proto)
>>> >> <zioproto at gmail.com <mailto:zioproto at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I think he meant Denmark.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>> yes I meant Denmark !
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Saverio
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