[Battlemesh] WBM V6 Ibiza & Formentera

Wed May 2 20:52:38 CEST 2012

Is this the "politico buro" or just the founding groups?

I read "we intend Battlemesh to remain a technical event self-organized by
its participants" is this accurate?

or is it more like George Orwell animal farm "all are equal but some are
more equal then others"?

As far as I understand the organizers of the last event in this case
"Athens" form a recon team and they choose the best venue.

But I may be wrong please correct if necessary

Michel

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:45 PM, ZioPRoTo (Saverio Proto) <zioproto at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Anybody remember this page ?
> http://battlemesh.org/AboutUs
>
> btw the Athens people should be added here.
>
> Saverio
>
>
>
> 2012/5/2 Michel de Geofroy <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com>:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > First of all I want everyone not to misunderstand my position, when I do
> > something I do it best I can … it may come across as me desperately
> wanting
> > the event to be in Formentera, but in reality its much more comfortable
> to
> > be a guest than a host as the ones who have hosted events understand
> > especially if you want to make it a fun and cheap one.
> >
> > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Federico Capoano
> > <federico at nemesisdesign.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> The veiled discussion here is:
> >>
> >> Organizing an event where there are existing community networks VS
> >> Organize an event where there are not community networks yet to promote
> the
> >> creation of community networks
> >>
> >> From what I understood, BattleMesh has been always organized by existing
> >> community networks to meetup, share, compare the work done by each
> group and
> >> eventually collaborate. The main feature was the fact that some existing
> >> community hosted the event and many here would like it to stay that way.
> >>
> >> In Michel's case, he wants to organize an event in a place where (from
> >> what I've understood, correct me if i'm wrong) there's no real community
> >> network yet and this would probably promote our model there.
> >
> >
> > There are more than 60 people that are sharing their internet connection
> > using Robin OLSR initially with support of cloudtrax and now mostly with
> > wifi-mesh I do not know if "you" consider this a community network ? are
> > they hackers or knowledgable in WiFi ? I would say no, they are just your
> > average person that feels good about sharing.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Personally I think that an event to promote community networks in the
> >> balearic islands would be great, I lived there 3 years, I know Ibiza
> quite
> >> well and I could ask around if there's a way to get help in organizing
> such
> >> an event.
> >> What I'm not sure though, is if it makes sense to bring there the
> >> "BattleMesh" format, because hardly anyone living there would be able to
> >> understand what we would be talking about during most part of the event!
> >
> >
> > I agree most local people would be learning more than anything else
> >
> >>
> >> In my opinion it would make more sense to organize a new kind of event
> >> with a different format and name, which would be aimed at promoting
> >> community neworks, using a language that anybody would be able to
> >> understand, focused on some talks and demonstrations.
> >
> >
> > Honestly I would not be interested in creating yet another event  better
> go
> > to Denmark  since honestly I am probably the least one interested in
> > Formentera I live here :)
> >>
> >>
> >> My 2 cents
> >>
> >
> > Cheers to all :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Federico Capoano
> >> Web Designer & Web Developer
> >> Portfolio/Blog: nemesisdesign.net
> >> Twitter: @nemesisdesign
> >> PGP Key ID: 308BD46E
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Il 02/05/2012 11.21, Michel de Geofroy ha scritto:
> >>
> >> Roger is this what you are referring to ?
> >>
> >> http://battlemesh.org/SpiritOfTheEvent
> >>
> >> "Battelemesh is an annual gathering where a number of mesh and community
> >> networking enthusiasts meet in order to test and compare their mesh
> routing
> >> protocols and related technologies. The event is technical and social --
> >> building actual working networks, meeting people and having fun are our
> main
> >> priorities.
> >> As the Battlemesh's attendance has grown in recent years, we have been
> >> reserving a small number of slots for short talks. However, we intend
> >> Battlemesh to remain a technical event self-organized by its
> participants,
> >> rather than a conference, and the number of available slots is severely
> >> limited."
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On 2 May 2012 01:29, Michel de Geofroy <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> > Hi All is this http://battlemesh.org/org_framework still relevant or
> >>> > needs
> >>> > some updating ?
> >>>
> >>> It should still be relevant (this is what it was meant for) and of
> >>> course it can be updated by just doing it and commenting it in this
> >>> list.
> >>>
> >>> The spirit was well defined during de v5 in a proposal circulated in
> >>> this list. I think that text could already be uploaded in the website.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Formentera has some real advantages as it is really a nice place bla
> >>> > bla bla
> >>> > but we have no university or big city with lots of qualified people
> >>> > like I
> >>> > met in Paris at the Black Box. Wifi here is more about rural out
> reach
> >>> > so
> >>> > kids can do their homework without having to get a 3G wifi modem and
> 45
> >>> > Euro
> >>> > a month 10MB shitty telephonica/movistar deal . As Saverio noted
> there
> >>> > is
> >>> > nothing like the AWMN or Guifi here yet but I am working on it and I
> do
> >>> > hope
> >>> > that the presence of 60+ wifi nerds will inspire more people locally.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Nefeli Kousi <dit.eagle at gmail.com>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> About Denmark i think we should ask the ones who proposed this idea
> >>> >> for
> >>> >> more information. Throughout the last conversation (in Greece) there
> >>> >> were
> >>> >> many good points about it and i would like to see them all in a more
> >>> >> concrete and organised proposal.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> About the spirit of the event I think we need to here the
> "definition"
> >>> >> from the ones who started it so the newies such as myself can
> >>> >> understand it
> >>> >> better. What is the original culture and goal? How relevant is it to
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> event now?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Lastly about the new location for WBM I think we need to define what
> >>> >> our
> >>> >> priorities and out minimum needs are.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> We need a venue for sure , a low cost place to sleep, transportation
> >>> >> from
> >>> >> the airport to be availiable etc. And, most importantly, we need a
> >>> >> team to
> >>> >> feel responsible to organise it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> What about the priorities?
> >>> >> Is our priority to have crazy wirelless projects? Is our priority to
> >>> >> have
> >>> >> fun? Is our priority to get bonded as a team? Is our priority to be
> >>> >> cost
> >>> >> effective? Is our priority to get some results out of the WBMv6?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> There are many nice ideas and many wonderfull places around the
> world.
> >>> >> But, in my opinion, we need to set what we are looking for.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:46 AM, ZioPRoTo (Saverio Proto)
> >>> >> <zioproto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > I think he meant Denmark.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> yes I meant Denmark !
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Saverio
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