[Battlemesh] WBM V6 Ibiza & Formentera

ZioPRoTo (Saverio Proto) zioproto at gmail.com
Wed May 2 18:45:29 CEST 2012


Anybody remember this page ?
http://battlemesh.org/AboutUs

btw the Athens people should be added here.

Saverio



2012/5/2 Michel de Geofroy <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com>:
> Hi All,
>
> First of all I want everyone not to misunderstand my position, when I do
> something I do it best I can … it may come across as me desperately wanting
> the event to be in Formentera, but in reality its much more comfortable to
> be a guest than a host as the ones who have hosted events understand
> especially if you want to make it a fun and cheap one.
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Federico Capoano
> <federico at nemesisdesign.net> wrote:
>>
>> The veiled discussion here is:
>>
>> Organizing an event where there are existing community networks VS
>> Organize an event where there are not community networks yet to promote the
>> creation of community networks
>>
>> From what I understood, BattleMesh has been always organized by existing
>> community networks to meetup, share, compare the work done by each group and
>> eventually collaborate. The main feature was the fact that some existing
>> community hosted the event and many here would like it to stay that way.
>>
>> In Michel's case, he wants to organize an event in a place where (from
>> what I've understood, correct me if i'm wrong) there's no real community
>> network yet and this would probably promote our model there.
>
>
> There are more than 60 people that are sharing their internet connection
> using Robin OLSR initially with support of cloudtrax and now mostly with
> wifi-mesh I do not know if "you" consider this a community network ? are
> they hackers or knowledgable in WiFi ? I would say no, they are just your
> average person that feels good about sharing.
>
>>
>>
>> Personally I think that an event to promote community networks in the
>> balearic islands would be great, I lived there 3 years, I know Ibiza quite
>> well and I could ask around if there's a way to get help in organizing such
>> an event.
>> What I'm not sure though, is if it makes sense to bring there the
>> "BattleMesh" format, because hardly anyone living there would be able to
>> understand what we would be talking about during most part of the event!
>
>
> I agree most local people would be learning more than anything else
>
>>
>> In my opinion it would make more sense to organize a new kind of event
>> with a different format and name, which would be aimed at promoting
>> community neworks, using a language that anybody would be able to
>> understand, focused on some talks and demonstrations.
>
>
> Honestly I would not be interested in creating yet another event  better go
> to Denmark  since honestly I am probably the least one interested in
> Formentera I live here :)
>>
>>
>> My 2 cents
>>
>
> Cheers to all :)
>>
>>
>> Federico Capoano
>> Web Designer & Web Developer
>> Portfolio/Blog: nemesisdesign.net
>> Twitter: @nemesisdesign
>> PGP Key ID: 308BD46E
>>
>>
>>
>> Il 02/05/2012 11.21, Michel de Geofroy ha scritto:
>>
>> Roger is this what you are referring to ?
>>
>> http://battlemesh.org/SpiritOfTheEvent
>>
>> "Battelemesh is an annual gathering where a number of mesh and community
>> networking enthusiasts meet in order to test and compare their mesh routing
>> protocols and related technologies. The event is technical and social --
>> building actual working networks, meeting people and having fun are our main
>> priorities.
>> As the Battlemesh's attendance has grown in recent years, we have been
>> reserving a small number of slots for short talks. However, we intend
>> Battlemesh to remain a technical event self-organized by its participants,
>> rather than a conference, and the number of available slots is severely
>> limited."
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 2 May 2012 01:29, Michel de Geofroy <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi All is this http://battlemesh.org/org_framework still relevant or
>>> > needs
>>> > some updating ?
>>>
>>> It should still be relevant (this is what it was meant for) and of
>>> course it can be updated by just doing it and commenting it in this
>>> list.
>>>
>>> The spirit was well defined during de v5 in a proposal circulated in
>>> this list. I think that text could already be uploaded in the website.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Formentera has some real advantages as it is really a nice place bla
>>> > bla bla
>>> > but we have no university or big city with lots of qualified people
>>> > like I
>>> > met in Paris at the Black Box. Wifi here is more about rural out reach
>>> > so
>>> > kids can do their homework without having to get a 3G wifi modem and 45
>>> > Euro
>>> > a month 10MB shitty telephonica/movistar deal . As Saverio noted there
>>> > is
>>> > nothing like the AWMN or Guifi here yet but I am working on it and I do
>>> > hope
>>> > that the presence of 60+ wifi nerds will inspire more people locally.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Nefeli Kousi <dit.eagle at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> About Denmark i think we should ask the ones who proposed this idea
>>> >> for
>>> >> more information. Throughout the last conversation (in Greece) there
>>> >> were
>>> >> many good points about it and i would like to see them all in a more
>>> >> concrete and organised proposal.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> About the spirit of the event I think we need to here the "definition"
>>> >> from the ones who started it so the newies such as myself can
>>> >> understand it
>>> >> better. What is the original culture and goal? How relevant is it to
>>> >> the
>>> >> event now?
>>> >>
>>> >> Lastly about the new location for WBM I think we need to define what
>>> >> our
>>> >> priorities and out minimum needs are.
>>> >>
>>> >> We need a venue for sure , a low cost place to sleep, transportation
>>> >> from
>>> >> the airport to be availiable etc. And, most importantly, we need a
>>> >> team to
>>> >> feel responsible to organise it.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> What about the priorities?
>>> >> Is our priority to have crazy wirelless projects? Is our priority to
>>> >> have
>>> >> fun? Is our priority to get bonded as a team? Is our priority to be
>>> >> cost
>>> >> effective? Is our priority to get some results out of the WBMv6?
>>> >>
>>> >> There are many nice ideas and many wonderfull places around the world.
>>> >> But, in my opinion, we need to set what we are looking for.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:46 AM, ZioPRoTo (Saverio Proto)
>>> >> <zioproto at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I think he meant Denmark.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>>
>>> >>> yes I meant Denmark !
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Saverio
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