[Battlemesh] Promote WBMv6: ENDORSEMENTS?

[Simon Wunderlich]

Michel,

I still think we should keep the endorsement/poster making free of any
monetary engagement. Projects will most probably deterred, or start
discussing how/who/whether they pay/contribute anything and will not
endorse.

As far as I understood, the original idea to endorse was:
 * spread the word
 * let other people know who is coming
 * have a poster with all the logos

We should keep this open for everyone, even if they don't contribute,
or bring cash. Everyone can then read the news articles of the projects,
see the online flyer/poster. Printing poster is just an extra here.

Printing T-Shirts is another issue, as this neccassarily involves giving
money to someone who prints the T-Shirts for us.

I see three options here:
 * use the event budget for T-Shirts for both paying them and selling
   them at the WBMv6 (afaik this is not part of the budget yet). Please
   contact Martin if you want to choose this option and discuss it with
   him, he handles the budget.
 * Use your private money, pay the T-Shirt producer, and collect the money
   from the participants by selling them. I've did the same for BATMAN t-shirts
   the last years, and it worked out quite well. Of course this includes the risk
   to not sell all of them, but that's part of the fun. ;)
 * let someone else print T-shirts, bringing them and handle all that stuff. :)

Cheers,
	Simon

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 04:10:02PM +0100, Michel de Geofroy wrote:
> I do agree with Simon and like the idea of people contributing time or
> hardware ... and I do hope as many people contribute something so that
> monetary needs are kept at a bare minimum.
> 
> The below questions need attention and maybe a thread,
> 
> * who will receive the money?
> Thats a good question because I will need money to print T-Shirts etc. who
> is in charge of that in General ?
> 
> * what to do about projects which don't have a legal entitity/shared bank
> account? (that might be the case for most software projects at least)
> Cash will probably do
> 
> * will we not print the logo if the money wasn't received?
> I don't think that this is an issue because if a group / project can not
> afford to help in any way they probably need our help
> * who manages all that?
> No one and everyone :)
> 
> 
> //Michel
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Henrion <bh at udev.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Simon Wunderlich
> > <simon.wunderlich at s2003.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> > > BATMAN logos of different formats are to be found here:
> > >
> > > http://www.open-mesh.org/projects/open-mesh/wiki/Logos
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:49:36AM +0100, Michel de Geofroy wrote:
> > >> Could all the logo's of the "endorsers" be sent to me/uploaded on
> > website
> > >>
> > >> IMHO it would be fair to ask at least 50 Euros from the above that want
> > to
> > >> have their logos on website and print material it would show that they
> > >> Endorse and Support WBM
> > >
> > > Actually I don't think taking money works well in practice:
> > >
> > >  * who will receive the money?
> > >  * what to do about projects which don't have a legal entitity/shared
> > bank
> > >    account? (that might be the case for most software projects at least)
> > >  * will we not print the logo if the money wasn't received?
> > >  * who manages all that?
> > >
> > > I'd keep it easy, skip the fee, let people contribute as they want (I
> > like bringing hardware
> > > @p4u/confine), and put as many logos as we can on posters etc. The
> > effect of
> > > having as many logos as we can on the posters would have a higher
> > practical value
> > > for the event than taking money for it.
> >
> > +1
> >
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