[Battlemesh] Promote WBMv6: ENDORSEMENTS?

Michel de Geofroy micheldegeofroy at gmail.com
Sun Jan 27 23:28:27 CET 2013


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Simon Wunderlich
<simon.wunderlich at s2003.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
>
> Michel,
>
> I still think we should keep the endorsement/poster making free of any
> monetary engagement. Projects will most probably deterred, or start
> discussing how/who/whether they pay/contribute anything and will not
> endorse.


OK makes sense

>
>
> As far as I understood, the original idea to endorse was:
>  * spread the word
>  * let other people know who is coming
>  * have a poster with all the logos


OK maybe I can Make layout and Martin can find a way to print them cheap

>
>
> We should keep this open for everyone, even if they don't contribute,
> or bring cash. Everyone can then read the news articles of the projects,
> see the online flyer/poster. Printing poster is just an extra here.
>
> Printing T-Shirts is another issue, as this neccassarily involves giving
> money to someone who prints the T-Shirts for us.
>
> I see three options here:
>  * use the event budget for T-Shirts for both paying them and selling
>    them at the WBMv6 (afaik this is not part of the budget yet). Please
>    contact Martin if you want to choose this option and discuss it with
>    him, he handles the budget.


I will also thought of zazzel.com will update on that option.

>
>  * Use your private money, pay the T-Shirt producer, and collect the money
>    from the participants by selling them. I've did the same for BATMAN t-shirts
>    the last years, and it worked out quite well. Of course this includes the risk
>    to not sell all of them, but that's part of the fun. ;)


LoL yeah saw you liked the street vending action in Athens :)

>
>  * let someone else print T-shirts, bringing them and handle all that stuff. :)
>
> Cheers,
>         Simon

// Michel
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 04:10:02PM +0100, Michel de Geofroy wrote:
> > I do agree with Simon and like the idea of people contributing time or
> > hardware ... and I do hope as many people contribute something so that
> > monetary needs are kept at a bare minimum.
> >
> > The below questions need attention and maybe a thread,
> >
> > * who will receive the money?
> > Thats a good question because I will need money to print T-Shirts etc. who
> > is in charge of that in General ?
> >
> > * what to do about projects which don't have a legal entitity/shared bank
> > account? (that might be the case for most software projects at least)
> > Cash will probably do
> >
> > * will we not print the logo if the money wasn't received?
> > I don't think that this is an issue because if a group / project can not
> > afford to help in any way they probably need our help
> > * who manages all that?
> > No one and everyone :)
> >
> >
> > //Michel
> > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Benjamin Henrion <bh at udev.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Simon Wunderlich
> > > <simon.wunderlich at s2003.tu-chemnitz.de> wrote:
> > > > BATMAN logos of different formats are to be found here:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.open-mesh.org/projects/open-mesh/wiki/Logos
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:49:36AM +0100, Michel de Geofroy wrote:
> > > >> Could all the logo's of the "endorsers" be sent to me/uploaded on
> > > website
> > > >>
> > > >> IMHO it would be fair to ask at least 50 Euros from the above that want
> > > to
> > > >> have their logos on website and print material it would show that they
> > > >> Endorse and Support WBM
> > > >
> > > > Actually I don't think taking money works well in practice:
> > > >
> > > >  * who will receive the money?
> > > >  * what to do about projects which don't have a legal entitity/shared
> > > bank
> > > >    account? (that might be the case for most software projects at least)
> > > >  * will we not print the logo if the money wasn't received?
> > > >  * who manages all that?
> > > >
> > > > I'd keep it easy, skip the fee, let people contribute as they want (I
> > > like bringing hardware
> > > > @p4u/confine), and put as many logos as we can on posters etc. The
> > > effect of
> > > > having as many logos as we can on the posters would have a higher
> > > practical value
> > > > for the event than taking money for it.
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
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