[Ninux-day] Wrap-up

clauz at ninux.org clauz at ninux.org
Wed Dec 2 20:19:28 CET 2009


Ramon Roca wrote:
> Al 02/12/09 00:39, En/na Mitar ha escrit:
>> Hi!
>>
>>   
>>> I'm refering basically to 2002/20/CE Art. 5 (Authorization Directive) 
>>> and the Article 87 of the UE treaty about fair competition (If I do 
>>> remember them correctly).
>>>     
>> Hm, I doubt fair competition treaty can be used in a case of
>> non-commercial network as we do not want to show ourselves as a
>> competition to the commercial networks?
>>
>>   
> I was pointing that in the sense that both commercial an non commercial
> use have to be allowed under fair conditions.
> Non commercial use, doesn't means that lacks of a business model or
> sustainability, just means that is not based on the commercial
> exploitation of a proprietary infrastructure.
> There are also other economic models such as self service, or a neutral
> network surrounded by services around it (like the internet itself).
> 
> If certain regulation benefits one economic model and prevents another,
> we have an argument to say that the member state is interfering against
> fair competition.
> 
>>> If we think carefully, we might find others. googling by 2002/27CE
>>> you'll find it.
>>>     
>> I have found this:
>>
>> http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/worksem/conreg/presentations/conreg_0504_fabrizio_savi_p2.pdf
>>
>> But it does say anything useful, it seems.
>>
>> Could somebody maybe translate current articles of Italian law which
>> prohibits WiFi? Maybe we could find
>>   
> I saw those texts in Rome, I haven't the Italian laws links, somewhere
> have to be.
> Strictly, was not prohibiting wi-fi, but asking for authorization for
> being used outdoors outside of your property, and later, there is an
> expensive tax only affordable for coroprations, which clearly discourage
> individuals for building self-service/non-commercial networks.
>>
>> Mitar

Hello, everybody.
We are trying to involve others from Italy, by writing on the "digital
freedom" mailing list, where there are many people involved in digital
rights activism:

http://linux-club.org/pipermail/digitalfreedomweek/2009-December/005327.html
http://linux-club.org/pipermail/digitalfreedomweek/2009-December/005332.html

If you find some interesting point that you want us to translate, please
ask! I was thinking that it might be a good idea to invite the people
interested in this topic to subscribe to this mailing list so that we
can have a discussion on the topic in English and coordinate
transnationally... what do you think about it?

Claudio




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