[Battlemesh] WBM V6 Ibiza & Formentera
Michel de Geofroy
micheldegeofroy at gmail.com
Wed May 2 14:51:43 CEST 2012
First of all I want everyone not to misunderstand my position, when I do
something I do it best I can … it may come across as me desperately wanting
the event to be in Formentera, but in reality its much more comfortable to
be a guest than a host as the ones who have hosted events understand
especially if you want to make it a fun and cheap one.
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Federico Capoano <
federico at nemesisdesign.net> wrote:
> The veiled discussion here is:
> Organizing an event where there are existing community networks *VS *Organize
> an event where there are not community networks yet to promote the creation
> of community networks
> From what I understood, BattleMesh has been always organized by existing
> community networks to meetup, share, compare the work done by each group
> and eventually collaborate. The main feature was the fact that some
> existing community hosted the event and many here would like it to stay
> that way.
> In Michel's case, he wants to organize an event in a place where (from
> what I've understood, correct me if i'm wrong) there's no real community
> network yet and this would probably promote our model there.
There are more than 60 people that are sharing their internet connection
using Robin OLSR initially with support of cloudtrax and now mostly with
wifi-mesh I do not know if "you" consider this a community network ? are
they hackers or knowledgable in WiFi ? I would say no, they are just your
average person that feels good about sharing.
> Personally I think that an event to promote community networks in the
> balearic islands would be great, I lived there 3 years, I know Ibiza quite
> well and I could ask around if there's a way to get help in organizing such
> an event.
> What I'm not sure though, is if it makes sense to bring there the
> "BattleMesh" format, because hardly anyone living there would be able to
> understand what we would be talking about during most part of the event!
I agree most local people would be learning more than anything else
> In my opinion it would make more sense to organize a new kind of event
> with a different format and name, which would be aimed at promoting
> community neworks, using a language that anybody would be able to
> understand, focused on some talks and demonstrations.
Honestly I would not be interested in creating yet another event better go
to Denmark since honestly I am probably the least one interested in
Formentera I live here :)
> My 2 cents
Cheers to all :)
> *Federico Capoano*
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> Il 02/05/2012 11.21, Michel de Geofroy ha scritto:
> Roger is this what you are referring to ?
> "Battelemesh is an annual gathering where a number of mesh and community
> networking enthusiasts meet in order to test and compare their mesh routing
> protocols and related technologies. The event is technical and social --
> building actual working networks, meeting people and having fun are our
> main priorities.
> As the Battlemesh's attendance has grown in recent years, we have been
> reserving a small number of slots for short talks. However, we intend
> Battlemesh to remain a technical event self-organized by its participants,
> rather than a conference, and the number of available slots is severely
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Roger Baig Viñas <roger.baig at gmail.com>wrote:
>> On 2 May 2012 01:29, Michel de Geofroy <micheldegeofroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi All is this http://battlemesh.org/org_framework still relevant or
>> > some updating ?
>> It should still be relevant (this is what it was meant for) and of
>> course it can be updated by just doing it and commenting it in this
>> The spirit was well defined during de v5 in a proposal circulated in
>> this list. I think that text could already be uploaded in the website.
>> > Formentera has some real advantages as it is really a nice place bla
>> bla bla
>> > but we have no university or big city with lots of qualified people
>> like I
>> > met in Paris at the Black Box. Wifi here is more about rural out reach
>> > kids can do their homework without having to get a 3G wifi modem and 45
>> > a month 10MB shitty telephonica/movistar deal . As Saverio noted there
>> > nothing like the AWMN or Guifi here yet but I am working on it and I do
>> > that the presence of 60+ wifi nerds will inspire more people locally.
>> > On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Nefeli Kousi <dit.eagle at gmail.com>
>> >> About Denmark i think we should ask the ones who proposed this idea for
>> >> more information. Throughout the last conversation (in Greece) there
>> >> many good points about it and i would like to see them all in a more
>> >> concrete and organised proposal.
>> >> About the spirit of the event I think we need to here the "definition"
>> >> from the ones who started it so the newies such as myself can
>> understand it
>> >> better. What is the original culture and goal? How relevant is it to
>> >> event now?
>> >> Lastly about the new location for WBM I think we need to define what
>> >> priorities and out minimum needs are.
>> >> We need a venue for sure , a low cost place to sleep, transportation
>> >> the airport to be availiable etc. And, most importantly, we need a
>> team to
>> >> feel responsible to organise it.
>> >> What about the priorities?
>> >> Is our priority to have crazy wirelless projects? Is our priority to
>> >> fun? Is our priority to get bonded as a team? Is our priority to be
>> >> effective? Is our priority to get some results out of the WBMv6?
>> >> There are many nice ideas and many wonderfull places around the world.
>> >> But, in my opinion, we need to set what we are looking for.
>> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:46 AM, ZioPRoTo (Saverio Proto)
>> >> <zioproto at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I think he meant Denmark.
>> >>> >
>> >>> yes I meant Denmark !
>> >>> Saverio
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