[Battlemesh] RFC: A mesh project proposal

Tue Nov 21 15:21:43 CET 2023

This might help: https://web.archive.org/web/20190209154515/https://confine-project.eu/

Also, I am sure we can ask Leandro and others for a dump of the web page.

Hope it helps,
Aaron.

> On 10.11.2023, at 14:41, Filipe Borges Teixeira via Battlemesh <battlemesh at ml.ninux.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Be aware that the confine-project.eu website is no longer the correct one.
> 
> Best,
> Filipe
> 
> Albert Rafetseder via Battlemesh <battlemesh at ml.ninux.org> escreveu no dia quinta, 9/11/2023 à(s) 21:02:
> If data on the tech/operational side of things is on your wishlist as 
> well, check the work by the wonderful people at Freifunk & Gluon who 
> collect "census" data big time:
> 
> Sources: https://github.com/freifunk-gluon/census-exporter
> (I don't link to the live Grafana to spare them a DDoS ;-)
> 
> Inside the repo, communities.json has the per-community data source 
> URLs, and I'm pretty sure they have something documented about GDPR and 
> privacy issues of this type of data collection somewhere.
> 
> Maybe it's time to start a pad for collecting resources already?
> 
> Am 09.11.2023 21:04, schrieb Albert Rafetseder via Battlemesh:
> > Hi Rory,
> > 
> > Re: your (2), I'd need to ask the elders for details -- or maybe they
> > are still on this list anyway :-) --, but I remember the EU-funded
> > CONFINE project put considerable effort into modeling (and also
> > measuring and documenting) networks. Here's what a quick web search
> > found me:
> > 
> > Project overview: https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/288535/
> > Papers and datasets: https://cordis.europa.eu/project/id/288535/results
> > 
> > The CommonNodeDB code base is still floating around as well, e.g.:
> > https://github.com/FunkFeuer/common-node-db
> > 
> > Re: your (1), IMHO it's fine to keep messages coming through this list.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> >   Albert.
> > 
> > Am 09.11.2023 20:44, schrieb Mitar via Battlemesh:
> >> Hi!
> >> 
> >> There is:
> >> 
> >> https://interop.wlan-si.net/
> >> 
> >> It is still operational and feel free to continue to use it.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Mitar
> >> 
> >>> Dear Battlemesh friends,
> >>> 
> >>> I write to solicit feedback about a project I am starting which will 
> >>> gather together a repository of mesh projects, activities, and people 
> >>> into an open access database. I'm conceiving of this as two 
> >>> subprojects.
> >>> 
> >>> – Subproject 1: A database in some form, operated in a 
> >>> "crowd-sourced" mode in which everyone is welcome to submit entries 
> >>> for themselves or others, and I (working with a research assistant) 
> >>> will moderate to ensure some consistent quality of information in 
> >>> accordance with guidelines that I'd like to establish with feedback 
> >>> from this community. I can commit to hosting this, but I would be 
> >>> open to moving hosting to community-supported infrastructure if such 
> >>> a thing were possible. I will maintain the database in an open access 
> >>> mode online for anyone to use for any project.
> >>> 
> >>> – As an example of one such usage, I am also working on Subproject 2: 
> >>> a data visualization that I am developing for release in concert with 
> >>> a book on mesh that I hope to have published within the next 2-3 
> >>> years. The data visualization would draw selectively from the 
> >>> database to present certain entries in relation to concepts from my 
> >>> book. This would be a personal project, not subject to oversight from 
> >>> the community, although I would certainly warmly welcome any feedback 
> >>> and comments. I would invite (and even to a degree support) other 
> >>> folks working on similar such projects that would draw from the 
> >>> database.
> >>> 
> >>> So far we are just collecting everything in a spreadsheet, and trying 
> >>> to think about what kind of taxonomy / data model would be most 
> >>> appropriate for representing all of these examples. We're collecting 
> >>> everything from community network projects, to protocols and other 
> >>> software, as well as hardware projects, and even individual people.
> >>> 
> >>> I present this here with 3 questions at the moment:
> >>> 
> >>> (1) Is this an appropriate forum for me to communicate with you all 
> >>> about this? I'm not sure how active this mailing list is anymore and 
> >>> whether there may be many more folks in the community now who are not 
> >>> on this list. As I mentioned, I write to solicit feedback about any 
> >>> of the above, and at some point would even like to host a workshop or 
> >>> discussion where others might offer comments about things like: 
> >>> procedures, data models, appropriate technologies for hosting, data & 
> >>> privacy, or any other concerns. I saw that there was some mention of 
> >>> this at WBMv15 (https://pad.cas.cat/WBMv15 – thanks, Paul!). Perhaps 
> >>> we could host such a conversation at a future Battlemesh, though I 
> >>> plan to complete much work on this before then.
> >>> 
> >>> (2) Is anyone aware of prior work that partly or fully achieves 
> >>> similar goals?
> >>> 
> >>> (3) Would anyone like to be involved either by contributing 
> >>> information & entries, or in some other capacity? As I've described, 
> >>> for me this is a mix of a community and a personal project, but I do 
> >>> hope that the community component can genuinely be so: a product of 
> >>> collective endeavor from Battlemesh folks, and mesh network 
> >>> enthusiasts more widely.
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you kindly for reading and I look forward to any comments!
> >>> 
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Rory
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> *RORY SOLOMON, PhD* (he / him)
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