[Battlemesh] HK bluetooth mesh app

Ben West ben at gowasabi.net
Tue Sep 3 21:00:18 CEST 2019


Firechat was also used by folks outside the 2016 DNC in Philadelphia, which
isn't mentioned on Wikipedia.  Open Garden displayed a map on their site
containing pinpoints for each mesh user, presumably gleaned from the users'
devices, presenting this as one of their case studies.

Archive.org preserved the page.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170226082457/https://www.opengarden.com/case-studies.html

No mention of whether users were informed that Open Garden would be
collecting location data like this.

There is a thread on Hacker News discussing their follow-up product/project
Meshkit.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15797079

Personal opinion is opaquely collecting location data on users undermines
the point of end-to-end encryption, and it illustrates the risk of these
peer-to-peer comms apps being abused.  Aka why proprietary can be
problematic.



On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 1:18 PM Mitar <mitar at tnode.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Reminds me of FireChat:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireChat
>
> It was used in 2014 Hong Kong protests. :-)
>
> But it is really hard to get any information about how secure those apps
> really are.
>
> One open source I know about is:
>
> http://www.denovogroup.org/rangzen
>
> More or less the same people also wrote:
>
>
> https://www.usenix.org/conference/foci13/workshop-program/presentation/hasan
>
>
> Mitar
>
> >
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2019/09/02/hong-kong-protestors-using-mesh-messaging-app-china-cant-block-usage-up-3685
> >
> > Seems proprietary though, but the use case is interesting.
> >
>
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